1 00:00:10,135 --> 00:00:13,221 [flipping through radio stations] 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,892 [DJ on radio] Good morning, simulation farmers! 3 00:00:17,976 --> 00:00:21,771 This is the Pyromoth keeping you warm on the Ribbon and cool in your heart. 4 00:00:21,855 --> 00:00:24,816 Here's a little melody from the old Cuddle Cats 5 00:00:24,899 --> 00:00:26,109 with their classic hit 6 00:00:26,192 --> 00:00:29,487 "Let Me Up, Let Me Down, But Don't Let Me In." 7 00:00:29,571 --> 00:00:30,697 [vocal music playing faintly] 8 00:00:30,780 --> 00:00:33,033 [DJ] Good morning! 9 00:00:33,616 --> 00:00:38,371 ♪ Across the rolling hills I ramble at my will ♪ 10 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:44,169 ♪ Across the rolling hills I come riding ♪ 11 00:00:44,586 --> 00:00:50,133 ♪ With my banner in the wind I come riding ♪ 12 00:00:50,633 --> 00:00:53,011 ♪ With my banner in the wind ♪ 13 00:00:53,094 --> 00:00:54,179 [clicks, music stops] 14 00:00:54,345 --> 00:00:55,346 -[beeps] -[computer] Ah! 15 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:57,015 Thanks for activating me, Master. 16 00:00:57,098 --> 00:00:58,725 Which simulated universe 17 00:00:58,808 --> 00:01:00,185 -will you enter today? -Hmm. 18 00:01:00,977 --> 00:01:04,355 [computer] Mmm, Earth 1-9432. 19 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:07,150 Due to an easily avoidable operator error... 20 00:01:07,233 --> 00:01:09,319 -[alarm beeping] -...all beings on this Earth 21 00:01:09,402 --> 00:01:11,696 -have been destroyed. -Ah, shit. 22 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:12,947 [computer] Deleting Earth. 23 00:01:17,285 --> 00:01:19,829 Earth 4-169, 24 00:01:19,913 --> 00:01:24,334 due to yet another operator error, is undergoing a zombie apocalypse. 25 00:01:24,417 --> 00:01:26,419 You picked Glasses Man. 26 00:01:26,503 --> 00:01:28,880 This sim has a 23 Charisma rating. 27 00:01:28,963 --> 00:01:30,048 Great choice! 28 00:01:30,131 --> 00:01:31,674 Targeting Glasses Man. 29 00:01:31,758 --> 00:01:34,177 -[beeping] -[computer] Avatar selection screen. 30 00:01:34,928 --> 00:01:37,388 -Lady Charlotte, Pig Lord... -[Clancy] Mmm. 31 00:01:37,472 --> 00:01:40,350 -...Mr. Liftup, Poppy... -[Clancy] I gotta get a new avatar. 32 00:01:40,433 --> 00:01:41,476 [computer] ...Beach Body. 33 00:01:41,559 --> 00:01:43,603 -[Clancy] Whoa! -[computer] Beach Body selected. 34 00:01:43,686 --> 00:01:45,021 Merging with Simulator in... 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,525 three, two, one... 36 00:01:58,118 --> 00:01:58,952 [crowd shouting] 37 00:01:59,035 --> 00:02:00,495 [all] Free the weed! Free the weed! 38 00:02:00,578 --> 00:02:02,705 -[men grunting] -[man] Yeehaw! 39 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:04,541 -[all chattering] -[Clancy grunts] 40 00:02:04,624 --> 00:02:06,126 [coughing] 41 00:02:06,209 --> 00:02:07,168 God! 42 00:02:07,252 --> 00:02:09,254 [shouting, chattering continues] 43 00:02:10,588 --> 00:02:12,966 Oh, no! Glasses Man, no, no, no! 44 00:02:13,049 --> 00:02:15,426 Please don't be dead! I'm sorry! Please don't be dead. 45 00:02:15,510 --> 00:02:17,345 Your little glasses, I'll fix your glasses. 46 00:02:17,428 --> 00:02:18,513 I'm the president. 47 00:02:18,596 --> 00:02:21,808 Whoa! 48 00:02:21,891 --> 00:02:22,767 Cool. 49 00:02:22,851 --> 00:02:25,228 Do you mind if I record you for my, um... 50 00:02:25,770 --> 00:02:27,814 vid-cast... data-cast... 51 00:02:27,981 --> 00:02:29,941 Data-stream. My data-stream. 52 00:02:30,024 --> 00:02:32,902 It goes out to everyone in the system. It goes into space. 53 00:02:34,612 --> 00:02:35,446 Sure. 54 00:02:35,905 --> 00:02:36,739 Okay, great. 55 00:02:36,823 --> 00:02:40,827 [deep vocalizing] 56 00:02:40,910 --> 00:02:41,870 [sniffs] 57 00:02:41,953 --> 00:02:43,788 It just takes a second to set up. 58 00:02:44,038 --> 00:02:46,875 -[beeping] -Sorry about this. Wait, hold on a second. 59 00:02:46,958 --> 00:02:49,210 I guess... Well, I just want to thank you, first of all. 60 00:02:49,294 --> 00:02:50,211 It's a privilege, man. 61 00:02:50,295 --> 00:02:52,338 I know you've gotta be incredibly busy right now 62 00:02:52,422 --> 00:02:54,632 with the zombie apocalypse happening around you. 63 00:02:54,716 --> 00:02:57,093 Yeah, zombies... I really don't wanna talk about zombies. 64 00:02:57,177 --> 00:02:59,596 Okay. What about the marijuana protesters? 65 00:02:59,679 --> 00:03:01,806 -Those assholes? -Yeah. 66 00:03:01,890 --> 00:03:04,100 First of all, people don't understand my point of view. 67 00:03:04,184 --> 00:03:06,561 They think somehow I'm anti-pot or anti-legalization. 68 00:03:06,644 --> 00:03:08,938 -[Clancy] Right. -I'm not actually "pro" either. 69 00:03:09,022 --> 00:03:12,525 I'm pro human liberty, I'm pro the American system, 70 00:03:12,609 --> 00:03:14,736 pro letting people determine their laws. 71 00:03:14,819 --> 00:03:16,571 -Right. -I don't think this is... 72 00:03:16,654 --> 00:03:18,406 -If I had to... -[sniffs] 73 00:03:18,489 --> 00:03:21,409 ...have a... You know, if somebody pressed my face to the mirror and said, 74 00:03:21,492 --> 00:03:22,952 "Is it gonna be good or bad?" 75 00:03:23,244 --> 00:03:25,663 I think it might end up being kinda not so good for people, 76 00:03:25,747 --> 00:03:27,290 but so, I'll deal with it. I-- 77 00:03:27,373 --> 00:03:29,250 -But Frescher will deal with it. -Mr. President? 78 00:03:29,334 --> 00:03:30,960 -Maybe it will be good. -Excuse me... 79 00:03:31,044 --> 00:03:33,463 What? Can't you see I'm doing an interview with... 80 00:03:33,546 --> 00:03:35,465 -My name's Clancy. -I gotta get back to Clancy. 81 00:03:35,548 --> 00:03:38,259 -The zombies are inside the perimeter. -[President groans] 82 00:03:38,343 --> 00:03:40,553 Just get me a rifle, I'll take care of it. 83 00:03:40,637 --> 00:03:41,846 -You were saying? -Oh, yeah. 84 00:03:41,930 --> 00:03:45,225 I read a recent study that said medical marijuana was associated 85 00:03:45,308 --> 00:03:47,435 with close to 30 percent fewer deaths. 86 00:03:47,518 --> 00:03:50,313 It's actually... It's actually... More data's come in since that. 87 00:03:50,396 --> 00:03:52,482 -What's the data? -The data is if there's a lot of... 88 00:03:52,565 --> 00:03:55,485 If there's available recreational pot, opiate use is way down. 89 00:03:55,568 --> 00:03:57,612 -So it is helping? Interesting. -Simple. I know. 90 00:03:57,695 --> 00:04:00,406 I saw that too. I thought, "This could be the answer!" 91 00:04:00,490 --> 00:04:02,158 -Would you mind following me outside? -Yeah. 92 00:04:02,242 --> 00:04:04,285 This could be the answer to the opiate epidemic 93 00:04:04,369 --> 00:04:05,453 and the chronic pain thing. 94 00:04:05,536 --> 00:04:09,749 I would much rather see people on a lot of pot 95 00:04:09,832 --> 00:04:11,542 than any of the pills they're taking now, 96 00:04:11,626 --> 00:04:15,755 because the pill combo that they get on the opiate and the benzodiazepines 97 00:04:15,838 --> 00:04:18,383 and the sleeping medicine... "A," kills. 98 00:04:18,466 --> 00:04:20,593 Absolutely, when patients die of drug use, 99 00:04:20,677 --> 00:04:22,011 that's how they die today. 100 00:04:22,095 --> 00:04:25,473 "B," perpetuates their pain, and they're... and they're... 101 00:04:26,057 --> 00:04:28,351 they're, uh, disabled by it! 102 00:04:28,434 --> 00:04:30,687 -Yeah. -They're disabled by it. They're helpless. 103 00:04:30,770 --> 00:04:33,356 Pot... Some people are on the couch when they smoke a lot of pot, 104 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:35,024 but some people work just fine. 105 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:38,194 [Clancy] Well, one facet of marijuana that doesn't exist in opiates 106 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:41,281 -is that if you overdose on marijuana... -Hello! 107 00:04:41,364 --> 00:04:42,907 Thank you, Mr. President! 108 00:04:42,991 --> 00:04:43,825 Hello! 109 00:04:43,908 --> 00:04:45,493 Thank you, Mr. President! 110 00:04:45,576 --> 00:04:48,079 -Hello. -Mr. President, thank you! 111 00:04:48,788 --> 00:04:49,706 Anyway... 112 00:04:49,789 --> 00:04:51,499 -Um, your mind-- -You don't die. 113 00:04:51,582 --> 00:04:52,875 -You don't die. -You don't die, 114 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:55,586 but you are dragged through your own personal neurosis, 115 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:58,089 -inner weaknesses, fears-- -Oh, if you over... 116 00:04:58,172 --> 00:05:01,801 -If you have a, quote, "overdose." Yeah. -People say, "I feel paranoid," 117 00:05:01,884 --> 00:05:03,511 and usually what they mean is, 118 00:05:03,594 --> 00:05:06,639 "The marijuana is showing all these parts of myself 119 00:05:06,723 --> 00:05:08,975 that I don't necessarily want to deal with right now." 120 00:05:09,058 --> 00:05:09,892 [gun blasting] 121 00:05:09,976 --> 00:05:12,645 That can create a lot of positive change for people. Not all the time. 122 00:05:12,729 --> 00:05:16,232 A lot of times, I've definitely been paranoid and the things I've worried about 123 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:19,152 are ridiculous and absurd, and when I sober up, it's... 124 00:05:19,444 --> 00:05:23,406 I recognize that, but a lot of times, some of this stuff I'm shown 125 00:05:23,489 --> 00:05:27,076 on a heavy dose of marijuana, I come out of that knowing, 126 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,953 "Shit, man, I've gotta work on this. I need... 127 00:05:29,037 --> 00:05:30,079 Why am I not exercising? 128 00:05:30,163 --> 00:05:32,206 I need to exercise more. This is ridiculous. 129 00:05:32,290 --> 00:05:34,917 Why am I... I'm drinking a little too much right now. 130 00:05:35,001 --> 00:05:36,627 I need to slow down drinking." 131 00:05:36,711 --> 00:05:41,132 That... Also, did I ever talk to you about how I almost died on sleeping pills 132 00:05:41,215 --> 00:05:42,884 -years and years ago? -No. 133 00:05:42,967 --> 00:05:44,927 Oh, God! Oh, man. 134 00:05:45,303 --> 00:05:48,765 Um, there was a-- A guy came to this party I was at... 135 00:05:49,015 --> 00:05:51,017 -selling sleeping pills at, like... -[man groans] 136 00:05:51,100 --> 00:05:53,144 -...12:00 p.m. at a party. -[President] Bizarre. 137 00:05:53,227 --> 00:05:55,897 -Worst thing you could ever do. -"Get in your cars now! Go home!" 138 00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:57,774 -Yeah, this is-- -"How much you were drinking? 139 00:05:57,857 --> 00:06:00,318 -Oh, perfect, good combo!" -Yeah. And I bought some from him. 140 00:06:00,401 --> 00:06:01,235 [gun blasting] 141 00:06:01,319 --> 00:06:03,446 I don't even know why I would do that. 142 00:06:03,529 --> 00:06:06,866 I'm well aware of the fact that you should never, ever in a million years 143 00:06:06,949 --> 00:06:08,576 take benzos and drink. 144 00:06:08,659 --> 00:06:12,080 Never do it! It's what kills everybody. This is the death combo! 145 00:06:12,163 --> 00:06:14,082 -It is. -So I did it, and I remember-- 146 00:06:14,165 --> 00:06:16,793 One of the death combos. There are a few of them out there. 147 00:06:18,002 --> 00:06:20,463 I think I took one pill, 148 00:06:21,089 --> 00:06:24,175 and then I'm drinking and, like, feeling relaxed, and... 149 00:06:24,258 --> 00:06:26,552 -But I forgot I-- -[President] This is the danger of benzos. 150 00:06:26,636 --> 00:06:29,138 -[Clancy] This is how it kills you. -[President] Yeah, you forget. 151 00:06:29,222 --> 00:06:31,474 -[Clancy] I took another. -Ambien does that. You forget. 152 00:06:31,557 --> 00:06:33,976 By the way, I... Let me just clarify my-- [grunting] 153 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:36,646 I hate this idea of "good" drugs and "bad" drugs. 154 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:38,940 There's no such thing as a good and a bad drug. 155 00:06:39,023 --> 00:06:42,860 There's this chemical that's neither good nor bad, it just exists, 156 00:06:42,944 --> 00:06:44,862 we either created it or it exists in nature, 157 00:06:44,946 --> 00:06:46,697 and then it's the relationship 158 00:06:46,781 --> 00:06:49,367 that humans have with the substance that is the issue. 159 00:06:49,450 --> 00:06:51,285 -So smart. -And what our individual biology is, 160 00:06:51,369 --> 00:06:52,662 and what it triggers and whatnot. 161 00:06:53,329 --> 00:06:54,330 That's the problem. 162 00:06:54,414 --> 00:06:55,790 Like, Valium... [grunting] 163 00:06:56,457 --> 00:07:00,378 What, if you're... need to have a colonoscopy... 164 00:07:01,671 --> 00:07:03,881 -Valium or Valium-like drug-- Good! -Right. [laughs] 165 00:07:03,965 --> 00:07:08,010 Now, if you're just drinking absinthe and partying and about to drive home, 166 00:07:08,094 --> 00:07:09,429 -really bad! -[Clancy] Yeah! 167 00:07:10,388 --> 00:07:13,433 -[Frescher] Oh! Thank you, sir! -Not because Valium's good or bad, 168 00:07:13,516 --> 00:07:15,935 'cause the circumstance and the relationship is bad. 169 00:07:16,018 --> 00:07:17,353 I'll never forget it, man. 170 00:07:17,437 --> 00:07:19,272 I was laying in bed that night, 171 00:07:19,355 --> 00:07:22,150 trying to remember how many of the pills I'd taken. 172 00:07:22,233 --> 00:07:24,652 -As I'm passing out-- -God. 173 00:07:24,735 --> 00:07:26,863 And then I realize, "Oh, I can't move!" 174 00:07:26,946 --> 00:07:27,822 -Like... -Oh! 175 00:07:27,905 --> 00:07:31,868 I'm... If I wanted to get up right now, I don't think that I could get up. 176 00:07:31,951 --> 00:07:34,620 -This is as I'm fading out into darkness. -Oh, jeez! 177 00:07:34,704 --> 00:07:37,206 Then I woke up the next day, thank God, and I was alive, 178 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:40,293 -but if I had vomited, I would've died. -That's it, that's how they die. 179 00:07:40,376 --> 00:07:42,920 -Yeah, I have a friend who died. -It's called aspiration pneumonia. 180 00:07:43,004 --> 00:07:44,088 [whispers] Sorry, sir. 181 00:07:44,172 --> 00:07:46,215 You don't have to vomit a lot either. 182 00:07:46,591 --> 00:07:49,260 Sometimes, it can just be reflux. Sometimes, a little saliva. 183 00:07:49,343 --> 00:07:50,178 [exhales] 184 00:07:50,261 --> 00:07:52,346 And it goes down the wrong tube, gets into your lungs, 185 00:07:52,430 --> 00:07:54,515 and all the bacteria that's in your mouth 186 00:07:54,599 --> 00:07:56,601 goes into your lungs, where it don't belong. 187 00:07:56,684 --> 00:07:58,311 You set up a pneumonia, become septic, 188 00:07:58,394 --> 00:08:01,105 you go into shock and you die in about 30 minutes, 50, 60 minutes. 189 00:08:01,189 --> 00:08:02,940 -It can happen fast. -Oh, my God! 190 00:08:04,025 --> 00:08:05,610 -Those things are evil. -[President] Yeah. 191 00:08:05,693 --> 00:08:07,528 -Evil, evil, evil. -Well, no... 192 00:08:07,612 --> 00:08:08,446 [both laugh] 193 00:08:08,529 --> 00:08:11,991 In that situation. It's not the chemical. The chemical's just a thing of nature. 194 00:08:12,074 --> 00:08:13,367 [barking] 195 00:08:13,451 --> 00:08:14,494 -[pounding] -[gasps] 196 00:08:14,577 --> 00:08:15,453 Mr. President! 197 00:08:15,536 --> 00:08:16,621 [screams] 198 00:08:17,205 --> 00:08:18,623 [roaring] 199 00:08:19,165 --> 00:08:20,500 [loud thud] 200 00:08:20,583 --> 00:08:22,126 [all screaming] 201 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:24,462 Look, we're gonna have to initiate Alpha Protocol. 202 00:08:24,545 --> 00:08:26,130 -[man] Cool! -Onward, Charlotte! 203 00:08:26,214 --> 00:08:29,759 [all grunting, groaning] 204 00:08:29,842 --> 00:08:33,012 Good luck, sir! It's been a privilege to serve under you, and-- 205 00:08:33,095 --> 00:08:33,930 [screams] 206 00:08:35,139 --> 00:08:36,182 What's interesting to me... 207 00:08:36,265 --> 00:08:39,769 I'm clarifying our sort of back-and-forth, too, because I... 208 00:08:39,852 --> 00:08:41,437 You know, I love being around people 209 00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:44,315 that help me see the world through new glasses. You're one of those. 210 00:08:44,398 --> 00:08:45,650 Thank you! 211 00:08:46,234 --> 00:08:49,403 And so I'm open to all the stuff you say, and I think it's fascinating. 212 00:08:49,487 --> 00:08:51,322 Then I go, "But you could hurt somebody!" 213 00:08:51,405 --> 00:08:52,240 You notice that? 214 00:08:52,323 --> 00:08:53,991 -I'm always like, "What if?" -Yeah. 215 00:08:54,075 --> 00:08:55,159 [roars softly] 216 00:08:55,243 --> 00:08:57,203 [President] In the past, the Founding Fathers 217 00:08:57,286 --> 00:08:58,454 talked about pumping mushrooms 218 00:08:58,538 --> 00:09:00,748 -into horrible world leaders. -Yeah! 219 00:09:00,831 --> 00:09:02,083 -And-- -[Clancy] That's right. 220 00:09:02,166 --> 00:09:04,502 And we said, "He could get insight and be happy 221 00:09:04,585 --> 00:09:07,296 and he'd realize what he was doing." I thought, "Or he'd go darker!" 222 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:09,549 -We don't know. That's true. -It's the "or" that always-- 223 00:09:09,632 --> 00:09:10,675 [roaring] 224 00:09:10,758 --> 00:09:13,094 -[President] We'd better get out of here. -[Clancy] For sure. 225 00:09:14,136 --> 00:09:15,388 [both grunt] 226 00:09:15,471 --> 00:09:17,098 The zombies are coming. Come on. 227 00:09:19,308 --> 00:09:21,602 One of my favorite statements is, you know, 228 00:09:21,686 --> 00:09:25,022 "Health is about accepting and perceiving and dealing with reality 229 00:09:25,106 --> 00:09:26,732 -on reality's terms." -Mm. 230 00:09:32,905 --> 00:09:34,448 [man on TV] Is there anybody out there? 231 00:09:36,450 --> 00:09:39,203 This is Chuck Charles. If you wanna get saved-- Get in! 232 00:09:39,287 --> 00:09:41,163 Come to the mall! Get in! 233 00:09:41,539 --> 00:09:42,456 [shatters] 234 00:09:42,540 --> 00:09:44,709 Now, you said something that stayed with me, 235 00:09:44,792 --> 00:09:45,876 which was the analogy 236 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,753 -of the elevator hallucinogen. -Yes. 237 00:09:47,837 --> 00:09:51,173 -Do you use that often, or is that-- -The metaphor is that it's compared 238 00:09:51,257 --> 00:09:56,512 to an elevator that takes you up to the very top floor of this building 239 00:09:56,596 --> 00:09:58,639 where this incredible party is happening. 240 00:09:58,723 --> 00:10:02,727 The doors open up, you see this amazing utopian nirvana situation. 241 00:10:02,810 --> 00:10:05,229 That you never knew was there, you'd never seen it before. 242 00:10:05,313 --> 00:10:08,316 [Clancy] Never even knew it was there, and the elevator, the thing dings, 243 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:10,067 the doors shut, it comes back down, 244 00:10:10,151 --> 00:10:12,361 and suddenly, you're screaming at people in traffic again. 245 00:10:12,445 --> 00:10:14,905 So, that's an analogy for what hallucinogens do. 246 00:10:14,989 --> 00:10:15,823 That's right. 247 00:10:15,906 --> 00:10:20,161 And this is... Again, my contribution is, I went, 248 00:10:20,244 --> 00:10:22,204 "What if it doesn't let you off on the first floor 249 00:10:22,288 --> 00:10:23,873 and ends up two floors into the basement?" 250 00:10:23,956 --> 00:10:25,416 -Taking you lower? -Taking you lower. 251 00:10:25,499 --> 00:10:27,918 The doctor in me always worries about that. 252 00:10:28,002 --> 00:10:30,588 Yeah, and let's say that it does take you lower. 253 00:10:30,671 --> 00:10:33,090 Let's say that you get to go up in a hot-air balloon 254 00:10:33,174 --> 00:10:34,842 and see the top of some beautiful mountain, 255 00:10:34,925 --> 00:10:37,261 then the hot-air balloon gets blown off course a little bit. 256 00:10:37,345 --> 00:10:40,431 You've still seen the top of the mountain, and I think that... 257 00:10:40,514 --> 00:10:42,642 -[man screaming] -There's the independent value of that. 258 00:10:42,725 --> 00:10:43,809 -Holy shit! -[thuds, screams] 259 00:10:44,852 --> 00:10:46,520 -Shit! -Die, die, die! 260 00:10:46,604 --> 00:10:47,563 [roars] Die again! 261 00:10:48,064 --> 00:10:49,565 [panting] 262 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:51,233 [growling, roaring] 263 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:53,235 -Are you fucking kidding me? -Come here. 264 00:10:53,319 --> 00:10:55,404 -[grunts] Fuck you! -Come on. 265 00:10:56,072 --> 00:10:56,989 [clears throat] 266 00:10:57,073 --> 00:10:59,075 -Are you okay? -Yeah. Just keep moving. 267 00:10:59,158 --> 00:11:01,661 You know what's weird? Why are we even running from them? 268 00:11:01,744 --> 00:11:03,871 -They're pretty slow. -[President] I know! 269 00:11:03,954 --> 00:11:06,165 Look, we could just stand... Let's just stand still. 270 00:11:06,248 --> 00:11:08,626 -Come get me! Come on, zombies! -Right here! 271 00:11:08,709 --> 00:11:10,002 [both chuckle] 272 00:11:10,086 --> 00:11:12,505 [President] Oh, no. I think that's my aunt. 273 00:11:12,588 --> 00:11:14,173 [zombies groaning] 274 00:11:15,049 --> 00:11:16,425 [President] Oh, my God, a mall. 275 00:11:16,509 --> 00:11:18,511 [groaning continues] 276 00:11:19,845 --> 00:11:21,180 [grunting] 277 00:11:21,263 --> 00:11:22,723 [moaning] 278 00:11:22,807 --> 00:11:24,350 [President] Then I asked the question, 279 00:11:24,433 --> 00:11:26,268 -"So how do we get there... -[car alarm blaring] 280 00:11:26,352 --> 00:11:27,895 ...in a way that we're in control of it?" 281 00:11:27,978 --> 00:11:31,065 -Damn zombos! -Yeah, that's the big question. 282 00:11:31,148 --> 00:11:32,983 I think it's a lot of things. I think... 283 00:11:33,067 --> 00:11:39,365 You know, I am, right now, really into this type of meditation which is, um... 284 00:11:40,241 --> 00:11:43,119 just the process of sitting still, watching your breath 285 00:11:43,202 --> 00:11:48,374 and being very aware of your thoughts, emotions and the way your body feels. 286 00:11:48,457 --> 00:11:49,667 And it's just this... 287 00:11:50,251 --> 00:11:52,753 something called "mindfulness." It's the practice of mindfulness, 288 00:11:52,837 --> 00:11:56,132 which is just watching the way that you act, and the way that you feel, 289 00:11:56,215 --> 00:11:58,426 -and the way that you think. -I think this is the cure! 290 00:11:58,509 --> 00:12:03,431 [Clancy] And becoming aware of the roots of a lot of the emotions 291 00:12:03,514 --> 00:12:04,515 -that exist in you. -Yeah. 292 00:12:04,598 --> 00:12:06,475 Especially for me. Like, I get angry, 293 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,520 and I will have angry outbursts sometimes. 294 00:12:11,021 --> 00:12:14,275 Yeah, thank you for looking perplexed that that happens. It happens! 295 00:12:14,358 --> 00:12:16,861 It-- it-- Just sitting by yourself, anger will come out, 296 00:12:16,944 --> 00:12:18,779 -[glass shatters] -or is it, like, traffic? 297 00:12:18,863 --> 00:12:20,865 Well, no... It's gotten much better. 298 00:12:20,948 --> 00:12:23,617 But, I mean, when I was much younger, 299 00:12:23,701 --> 00:12:26,036 I was just an angry person, so I would, like... 300 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,581 I can remember my printer didn't work one day, 301 00:12:28,664 --> 00:12:31,417 and I remember screaming alone in my apartment, 302 00:12:32,042 --> 00:12:34,503 breaking my printer in just a rage. 303 00:12:34,587 --> 00:12:36,630 [zombie groaning] 304 00:12:36,714 --> 00:12:37,798 I'm cured! 305 00:12:37,882 --> 00:12:40,468 It's time for a game of hacky sack! Woo-hoo! 306 00:12:40,551 --> 00:12:42,219 That's a thing that's inside of me, 307 00:12:42,303 --> 00:12:44,430 and that's why psychedelics have been very useful to me. 308 00:12:44,513 --> 00:12:45,765 [loud crash] 309 00:12:45,848 --> 00:12:49,810 [roaring] 310 00:12:49,894 --> 00:12:52,605 [all screaming] 311 00:12:53,981 --> 00:12:55,232 [rock music playing] ♪ Get in ♪ 312 00:12:58,110 --> 00:12:59,278 ♪ Get in ♪ 313 00:13:02,072 --> 00:13:03,407 ♪ Get in ♪ 314 00:13:10,122 --> 00:13:11,290 [grunts] 315 00:13:11,373 --> 00:13:12,666 -Get in. -[zombies snarling] 316 00:13:12,750 --> 00:13:14,668 -[man screaming] -[zombies grunting] 317 00:13:15,711 --> 00:13:16,670 [clears throat] 318 00:13:16,754 --> 00:13:20,341 But also, meditation has been incredibly useful, 319 00:13:20,424 --> 00:13:24,595 because now I can sit and I can meditate, and then maybe the dogs will bark, right, 320 00:13:24,678 --> 00:13:26,138 -while I'm meditating. -[gun blasting] 321 00:13:26,222 --> 00:13:30,643 I can watch the irritation sort of flower inside of me, 322 00:13:30,726 --> 00:13:33,354 and then when it's there, they say, "Look at it as though 323 00:13:33,437 --> 00:13:36,357 you're sitting in a forest and you're getting to watch a rare animal... 324 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,858 -[gun clicking] -[woman gasps] 325 00:13:37,942 --> 00:13:40,444 [Clancy] ...walking out into a clearing." 326 00:13:41,070 --> 00:13:44,198 And instead of, you know... As most of us do when anger comes in, 327 00:13:44,281 --> 00:13:46,534 we react to it, we go into reactivity mode, 328 00:13:46,617 --> 00:13:50,120 which is, maybe, you would stop meditating and scream at your dogs, 329 00:13:50,204 --> 00:13:52,122 or you would do something to make them quiet. 330 00:13:52,206 --> 00:13:55,584 -[President] Behavior that amplifies it. -Yeah, that's it. So you just watch. 331 00:13:56,085 --> 00:13:57,419 -You watch. -[panting] 332 00:13:57,753 --> 00:14:02,967 Buddhism compares anger to a sweet flower with bitter roots, 333 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:06,262 and so we follow the sweetness down. 334 00:14:06,345 --> 00:14:07,179 Is she in labor? 335 00:14:07,263 --> 00:14:08,389 [panting] 336 00:14:08,472 --> 00:14:10,599 -Yeah, she's, like-- -Okay. All right. 337 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:12,393 Hey, you all right? Need anything? 338 00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:13,727 [screams] 339 00:14:13,811 --> 00:14:16,313 -Just breathe. -We were planning a water birth. 340 00:14:16,397 --> 00:14:18,357 [President] Pull over. Maybe we can find something. 341 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,358 [tires screech] 342 00:14:19,441 --> 00:14:21,944 [woman vocalizing] 343 00:14:22,403 --> 00:14:23,612 [continues panting] 344 00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:24,864 [President] Hmm. 345 00:14:24,947 --> 00:14:26,699 -[Clancy] What? -Oh, my God! 346 00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:28,576 [all grunt] 347 00:14:28,659 --> 00:14:30,828 [President] What are we talking about? 348 00:14:30,911 --> 00:14:33,581 [woman] He was talking about meditation or something. 349 00:14:33,664 --> 00:14:35,791 [Clancy] Yeah. Or just watching your feelings, you know? 350 00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:39,295 You follow the feelings down into the poisonous roots-- 351 00:14:39,378 --> 00:14:43,173 Do you do that in a feeling way or an insight way, if that makes sense? 352 00:14:43,257 --> 00:14:46,594 Do you just follow the feelings, or do you have some sort of specific, 353 00:14:46,677 --> 00:14:49,263 "That reminds me of some experience," or something? 354 00:14:49,346 --> 00:14:52,683 Well, it's called "noting," so you would... You can... 355 00:14:52,766 --> 00:14:54,518 You know, it's like... It's just... 356 00:14:55,019 --> 00:14:56,729 -Think about an emotion. -Yeah. 357 00:14:56,812 --> 00:14:59,648 These are these really kind of ambiguous... 358 00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:02,651 These bodily-based things you're faintly aware of many times. 359 00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:06,113 -Yeah, exactly. What is that thing, right? -Yeah. 360 00:15:06,196 --> 00:15:08,449 So this is the practice of taking a microscope 361 00:15:08,532 --> 00:15:13,287 and looking into the recurring emotional patterns that are happening inside of you. 362 00:15:13,370 --> 00:15:15,748 Because most of the time, if you have a negative emotion, 363 00:15:15,831 --> 00:15:16,999 -you'll try to avoid it. -Yeah. 364 00:15:17,082 --> 00:15:20,628 -You try to move onto the next activity... -Oh, come on! 365 00:15:20,711 --> 00:15:22,504 -[Clancy] Always in a state... -[zombie groans] 366 00:15:22,588 --> 00:15:23,964 Damn zombos. 367 00:15:24,048 --> 00:15:25,633 -What if we don't turn our backs... -What? 368 00:15:25,716 --> 00:15:26,550 [camera clicks] 369 00:15:26,634 --> 00:15:28,844 ...and zoom in on the thing and see, 370 00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:30,054 what is this fractal? 371 00:15:30,137 --> 00:15:31,972 It's really an interesting practice. 372 00:15:32,056 --> 00:15:33,390 -Just... - [President] All right. 373 00:15:33,474 --> 00:15:34,475 -And push! -[panting] 374 00:15:34,558 --> 00:15:35,851 -Breathe! -Oh, no. 375 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:37,978 -You can do this! -Push. Breathing's before. Push. 376 00:15:38,062 --> 00:15:40,189 [Clancy] But then you breathe. Isn't it breathing first? 377 00:15:40,272 --> 00:15:43,484 -No, it's push! Oh, hello, there! -[crying] 378 00:15:44,443 --> 00:15:45,319 Let's get out of here. 379 00:15:45,402 --> 00:15:50,741 In Buddhism, the idea is all of those mental forms of analysis of these things 380 00:15:50,824 --> 00:15:53,160 -are kind of secondary to... -[zombies moaning] 381 00:15:55,287 --> 00:16:00,042 ...the very simple observation of the way any emotional state or thought 382 00:16:00,125 --> 00:16:03,212 or bodily feeling has a similar pattern 383 00:16:03,295 --> 00:16:06,423 in that it heightens, dissipates, and goes away. 384 00:16:06,507 --> 00:16:09,343 For me,  a lot of that magical stuff you're talking about happens 385 00:16:09,426 --> 00:16:11,178 in an interpersonal context. 386 00:16:11,261 --> 00:16:13,847 I'm a kind of person that it's very difficult for me 387 00:16:13,931 --> 00:16:16,892 to stay with some of those things unless there's a presence. 388 00:16:16,976 --> 00:16:18,477 [rock music playing faintly] 389 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,689 There are also people like you that, you know, you see in my field, 390 00:16:21,772 --> 00:16:23,691 and that's a massive field these days. 391 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:27,778 Most people that practice it don't do it as well as what you're describing. 392 00:16:27,861 --> 00:16:29,947 What you're saying is a big part of the practice, too. 393 00:16:30,030 --> 00:16:32,032 You're talking about sangha, the spiritual community, 394 00:16:32,116 --> 00:16:34,243 -which is acknowledged in Buddhism too. -[gun blasting] 395 00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:36,328 -[man screaming] -What's important is, 396 00:16:36,412 --> 00:16:39,790 let's encourage each other to get as close to the truth as we can. 397 00:16:39,873 --> 00:16:43,585 Or, as you mentioned earlier, to meeting reality on reality's terms. 398 00:16:43,669 --> 00:16:47,131 I think that the big surprise is everyone's like, "Oh, reality sucks, 399 00:16:47,214 --> 00:16:49,258 -the world sucks--" Come here, bud. -[grunting] 400 00:16:49,341 --> 00:16:54,138 We're trying to do this process where we sort of keep going backwards 401 00:16:54,221 --> 00:16:56,515 until we can't look at ourselves anymore. 402 00:16:56,598 --> 00:17:00,561 We want to go to this complete observer state until you get to the thing... 403 00:17:00,644 --> 00:17:02,479 -[President] Awareness of awareness. -That's it. 404 00:17:02,563 --> 00:17:04,273 -Yeah. -And then you become pure awareness, 405 00:17:04,356 --> 00:17:06,942 and the concept is that is what we really are, 406 00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:10,320 and that this entire material universe, including our body, 407 00:17:10,404 --> 00:17:14,324 -is a kind of phen-- I can't say it. -[cooing] 408 00:17:14,408 --> 00:17:18,120 -Phenomenological. -Phenomenological field of phenomena. 409 00:17:18,203 --> 00:17:22,166 A field of phenomena being encapsulated within this consciousness, 410 00:17:22,249 --> 00:17:28,255 and so the idea that I am alone, or the idea that I am an individual, 411 00:17:28,338 --> 00:17:31,091 is actually, interestingly enough, you're already not. 412 00:17:31,175 --> 00:17:32,926 It's false. It's a distortion. 413 00:17:33,010 --> 00:17:36,055 'Cause you're the thing and the observer simultaneously meeting together, 414 00:17:36,138 --> 00:17:38,390 -and that creates the illusion of self. -[zombies snarling] 415 00:17:38,474 --> 00:17:40,392 I mean, if the universe was a dolphin, 416 00:17:40,476 --> 00:17:43,437 then, basically, our bodies would be a fishing net. 417 00:17:43,812 --> 00:17:45,898 We're all kind of entangled in ourselves. 418 00:17:45,981 --> 00:17:48,108 You feel shit like that when you're high on acid? 419 00:17:48,192 --> 00:17:49,485 Yes, you do. 420 00:17:49,568 --> 00:17:50,486 [groaning] Ah! 421 00:17:50,569 --> 00:17:52,404 [screeching, crunching] 422 00:17:52,821 --> 00:17:54,073 [growls] 423 00:18:02,081 --> 00:18:03,415 [Clancy] Whoa! 424 00:18:04,541 --> 00:18:05,959 This feels really good. 425 00:18:06,043 --> 00:18:08,420 Oh, yeah! Oh, my God, I'm in love with it! 426 00:18:08,504 --> 00:18:11,215 Yeah, it kinda sounds like the zombies are... 427 00:18:11,298 --> 00:18:12,883 The zombos are singing! 428 00:18:14,384 --> 00:18:16,595 ♪ First, we're born ♪ 429 00:18:17,304 --> 00:18:20,182 ♪ And then we die ♪ 430 00:18:21,016 --> 00:18:25,479 ♪ And in between Most of us spend all our time crying ♪ 431 00:18:25,562 --> 00:18:27,981 ♪ Crying, crying, crying ♪ 432 00:18:28,065 --> 00:18:32,069 ♪ Once we were blind, but now we can see ♪ 433 00:18:33,028 --> 00:18:35,239 ♪ It feels good to be a zombie... ♪ 434 00:18:35,322 --> 00:18:38,575 Now I see there's nothing to get in and nothing to get out of! 435 00:18:38,659 --> 00:18:39,701 It's that simple! 436 00:18:40,327 --> 00:18:42,830 ♪ We move slow ♪ 437 00:18:43,288 --> 00:18:45,415 ♪ 'Cause there's no need to run ♪ 438 00:18:46,625 --> 00:18:50,754 ♪ Besides, what's the point of running When it's love that you're running from? ♪ 439 00:18:52,005 --> 00:18:52,881 [gasps] 440 00:18:53,173 --> 00:18:54,007 Dan! 441 00:18:54,091 --> 00:18:57,594 ♪ Life was a jail and we found the key ♪ 442 00:18:58,929 --> 00:19:01,807 ♪ In the bite of a zombie ♪ 443 00:19:01,890 --> 00:19:05,018 ♪ Ooh ♪ 444 00:19:05,102 --> 00:19:08,939 [man over loudspeaker] Mr. President!  445 00:19:09,022 --> 00:19:09,857 Oh! 446 00:19:10,190 --> 00:19:11,024 [all whooping] 447 00:19:11,108 --> 00:19:13,652 [man] We're here to save you, Mr. President. 448 00:19:13,735 --> 00:19:16,029 We have the antidote harpoon. 449 00:19:16,113 --> 00:19:21,368 Do not panic. We will hand you the antidote crossbow. 450 00:19:21,451 --> 00:19:22,286 [snarls] 451 00:19:22,369 --> 00:19:25,164 Firing the antidote harpoon. 452 00:19:25,247 --> 00:19:29,042 -Yeah! -[man] Blast the antidote harpoon now! 453 00:19:29,126 --> 00:19:31,170 Fire the antidote! 454 00:19:31,253 --> 00:19:34,715 -Fire a zombie antidote at the president! -[whooping continues] 455 00:19:34,798 --> 00:19:36,717 -[upbeat music playing faintly] -[guns blasting] 456 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,302 [roaring] 457 00:19:40,888 --> 00:19:41,930 [laughing] 458 00:19:42,806 --> 00:19:44,516 [growling] 459 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,061 Thank you so much for being a great guest. Do you have any last words? 460 00:19:48,145 --> 00:19:49,938 Thank you for having me! 461 00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:53,192 Last words... There's no such thing as a bad drug. 462 00:19:53,901 --> 00:19:55,777 It's the circumstances! 463 00:19:56,111 --> 00:19:57,446 [screams] 464 00:19:57,529 --> 00:19:59,114 Goodbye! 465 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:00,407 [blows horn] 466 00:20:00,490 --> 00:20:02,993 [snarling] 467 00:20:03,076 --> 00:20:03,911 [barking] 468 00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:10,042 -[upbeat music continues] -[man chanting in foreign language] 469 00:20:20,469 --> 00:20:21,303 [beeping] 470 00:20:21,386 --> 00:20:23,347 Holy shit, friends! Did you see that? 471 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:27,392 Guts ripped out, and yet, here I am, all in one piece. 472 00:20:27,476 --> 00:20:30,604 Thank you so much, oh, great denizens of the multiverse, 473 00:20:30,687 --> 00:20:33,857 for listening to Midnight Gospel. 474 00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:38,070 And to my one subscriber, Hernog Jenson, I live for you. 475 00:20:38,153 --> 00:20:41,281 You're the reason I wake up in the morning with a smile on my face, 476 00:20:41,365 --> 00:20:44,243 so keep listening, Hernog, and I'll see you in your dreams. 477 00:20:44,326 --> 00:20:47,579 [President] I love being around people who help me see the world through new glasses, 478 00:20:47,663 --> 00:20:48,872 and you're one of those people. 479 00:20:50,749 --> 00:20:52,459 There's no such thing as a bad drug. 480 00:20:52,542 --> 00:20:55,712 -[President, distorted] Good drugs... -[Chuck] Get in! 481 00:20:56,213 --> 00:20:57,631 [President, distorted] Good drugs... 482 00:20:58,340 --> 00:20:59,466 [Chuck, distorted] Get in! 483 00:21:00,092 --> 00:21:01,468 [man speaking indistinctly] 484 00:21:01,551 --> 00:21:02,970 [Chuck, distorted] Get in! 485 00:21:05,138 --> 00:21:07,349 [echoing] Good drugs...