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[distant vocalizing]
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-[whirring]
-[bear squealing]
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-[snoring]
-[machines beeping]
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-[horse neighs]
-[handsawing]
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[beeping, whirring]
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[engine winding down]
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[beeping continues]
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[whirring]
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Hmm.
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[computer]
Merging with simulator in three...
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-two...
-[whirring]
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-...one...
-[zapping]
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[knocking]
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-Hold on one sec.
-[computer] Okay.
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Mom?
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Hi, Mom.
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-Hi, Duncan.
-Would you be in my vidcast?
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[low voice droning]
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What... What's it like having me as a son?
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-[both laughing]
-[urinating]
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It is a joy having you as a son.
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You, um...
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How old was I--
How old was I when you had me?
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[both laugh]
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You were five weeks early.
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[Duncan] Yes?
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-[Mom] Yes.
-What's the story?
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Can you tell the story of my birth?
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-Absolutely.
-[Duncan] Then we'll get to you.
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Sure, absolutely.
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Well, you were five weeks early.
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It was a full moon, of course.
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And on the day of your birth...
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April 20th...
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Yes.
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...we were splashing around in the pool
with your older brother
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and it became obvious to me
that it was time to go to the hospital
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-instead of hanging out in the baby pool.
-[Duncan] Right.
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Unless I wanted to have a baby
in the baby pool.
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-[Duncan] Right.
-[Mom] Which I didn't.
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So we went to the hospital
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and you proceeded to be born
as quickly as you possibly could.
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-I had to get out.
-Obviously, you did.
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You had things to do.
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And then... So then I popped out of you.
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-Yes.
-And then what happened?
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Well, I mean...
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What did you do? Did you look at me?
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Or how does that work
when you have a baby?
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Well, you know, I don't want to get
too personal here, Duncan.
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-You can. They know everything about me.
-Do they know this?
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Do they know
that you actually came into the world...
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peeing on the doctor's glasses?
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I haven't mentioned that one.
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[both laugh]
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I don't remember it.
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Well, that's the first thing
that happened.
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You came into the world like you had
saved it up for nine months, perhaps.
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I still have to pee all the time.
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Well, this was into the doctor's glasses.
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So I piss in the doctor's glasses--
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And I watch you do this.
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When do they snip me?
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After that.
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So right after I pee in the doctor's face,
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-he cuts off the tip of my cock.
-He cuts...
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Well, that...
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Oh, I thought you meant snipping
the umbilical. The next thing was--
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No, circum-- Forget the umbilical!
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When do they--
when do they do the circumcision?
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[Mom] That was, like, two minutes later,
I'm sorry to tell you, and you did cry.
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-You did.
-Of course!
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You screamed.
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-Who wouldn't?
-I felt terrible.
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I thought it was a bad idea.
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[Duncan] So this is the process
of an American baby.
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American baby
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-gets blasted out of the pussy...
-[squeaks]
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...sprays in the doctor's face and then
gets the tip of his penis cut off.
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And then-- then--
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-No wonder we're all nuts!
-[Mom] Oh, no, no.
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That's not the end of the story.
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-Then, they wrapped you in a pink blanket.
-[Duncan] Oh, great.
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-[Mom] They didn't have any blue ones.
-"Humiliate him!"
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[snickers]
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"Snip off the tip of his penis
and wrap him in a pink blanket."
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[laughing]
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It's like some evil initiation
into a terrible fraternity.
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Well, it was pretty funny, actually.
It was a funny start.
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All except the circumcision,
which I think was a bad idea.
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I would never circumcise another child.
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How do you run out of pink blankets?
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-[Mom] You mean blue blankets.
-Blue blankets. It's your job.
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I guess they had a run on blue babies.
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-I see.
-I don't know.
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[Duncan] Hold on a second.
I'm gonna make sure this is recording.
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[squeaking]
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So, um...
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Yes?
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You've given birth to me,
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and then so what happens after that?
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[Mom] Um...
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-I proceeded to nurse you.
-Right.
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'Cause you were hungry.
You were a little teeny guy.
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-You were 5 lb. 19 oz.
-Premature.
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Five weeks premature.
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But perfectly fine.
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I mean, there was nothing wrong
with your lungs or anything.
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Now, if a child's born that early,
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they'll put the child in neonatal
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in the intensive care units
and things like that,
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-but you were fine.
-[squeaks]
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[Mom] So your brother walked
into the room, saw me nursing you...
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and screamed down the hall to his daddy
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that that baby was eating Mama up.
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[laughing]
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I forgot that story.
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[growls]
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Kind of true.
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-[roars]
-[Mom] Yeah, that's what Jeff thought.
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[Duncan] So Jeff just sees this
emaciated demon sucking on his mom's boobs
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and is probably traumatized about that
ever since.
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Well, he probably is still traumatized
by it, come to think of it,
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because this baby moved into his home.
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Now, before you retired, you were
a psychologist for many years.
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-[Mom] Right.
-[Duncan] How much do you think
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that kind of thing
has an impact on a person's personality?
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[Mom] An unbelievable amount.
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There is something that happens
for that firstborn child
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that changes them forever with that.
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[Duncan] Because suddenly
you just have to share resources.
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[Mom] Well, suddenly you are called "big"
when you're actually little.
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[squeaks]
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And so, you know,
it's a mind fuck right then and there.
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Right.
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And they have to...
I mean, an 18-month-old is in no way big.
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They're still in diapers
and they're still babies.
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And, all of a sudden, they're really
required to be something that they aren't
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and it changes them forever.
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[Duncan] "Be a big boy."
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-[Mom] A big boy or a big girl.
-[crying]
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Be unselfish. Help Mommy with this baby.
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Don't ask for anything.
Don't wake the baby up.
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-Try to be something that you aren't.
-[squeaking]
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-And it changes people forever.
-So that...
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You subscribe to the idea
that the formative years...
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create the beginning of a pattern
that goes throughout your life?
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[Mom] Yes. I would say
that the first five years of our lives
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shapes the personality structure
in such a way
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that any kind of spiritual work
that you're gonna do later...
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[barking, chattering]
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...is going to involve
looking back at the patterns
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that were set down
in your family of origin.
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There's no way to avoid that?
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No. Because, think about it...
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I mean, anything that you were
reinforced for in a positive way,
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you're gonna lock in
as the way a person should be.
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So if people thought you, um...
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were especially wonderful if you brought
Mommy the diaper for the new baby,
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then that's gonna tend to make you
more responsible.
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Maybe more responsible
than you ever tended to be.
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Maybe super responsible
or maybe compulsively responsible.
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-Right.
-So you start with where you are,
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but if you don't go back
and see what's real and what's not real,
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then you're missing your way into reality,
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which is what spirituality is all about,
as far as I'm concerned.
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It's distinguishing what's real
from what's not real.
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And that's why a teacher is needed,
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and the teacher needs to be
devoted to truth.
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[squeaking]
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[all giggling]
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Now the question is...
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Just a lot of people...
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I think about when I've been
in very confused, turbulent times
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where I haven't wanted to be who I am
and I mentally dislike myself...
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and I use that as a reference point.
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[screams]
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[Duncan]
A tangled mess of poverty and debt
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and confusion and, like, bad relationships
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and just general chaos.
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Kind of like when you're going down
a river and you don't know how to canoe
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and you end up stuck on the side
of the river in a bunch of branches,
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-covered in mosquitoes.
-Mm-hmm.
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So, many people,
that's where they're at right now.
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-They're just...
-True.
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-The canoe--
-Almost everyone is.
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The rudder was messed up
and they end up on the side of the river,
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then they blame themselves for that
and they hate themselves. They're on--
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They try to pretend that the side
of the river is where you need to be.
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That there's some romance
in getting gnawed on by weasels and bees.
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How do we get--
How do you get someone from the side of--
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If someone like that
was listening right now,
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and they're hearing you talk
about a teacher or this or that,
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and they're like, "I don't have enough
money to buy a sandwich to eat today..."
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-[Mom] Mm-hmm.
-...what do they do?
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What are some steps that they could take
to begin this process of coming to truth?
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I think the easiest thing
for that person to do
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is to get present.
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And that means to put the past aside,
put the future aside,
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and sense into their bodies.
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They can do that,
even if they don't have a penny.
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If we can learn to perceive
and sense ourselves from the inside,
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-our state of consciousness changes.
-[sighs]
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Is there a-- Can you walk me through
what that might be like?
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Can you sense the inside of your hand
right now?
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Hold on.
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Like under my skin?
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Yeah. Like inside your hand.
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-Yeah.
-You can sense it from the inside?
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I can... I mean, I don't know
if I'm projecting that feeling,
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-but I can feel a--
-What does it feel like?
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Kind of like when you push magnets
against each other or something.
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Kind of like a... Kind of like
there's a nail going through it.
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-Really?
-And I am on a cross.
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-[Mom] Okay--
-I am Jesus.
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I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding.
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[laughing]
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Can I feel inside my hand?
It's a really... I've never...
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-Sense your hand.
-I've never...
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I've never tried to do this.
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Okay. We're gonna try it right now.
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Okay, so sense your hand.
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Sense your index finger from the inside.
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Index. That's pinkie.
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[laughing]
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Okay.
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-Yeah, it's kind of warm.
-Yeah.
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Warm and what else?
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Numb. I don't know. Warm and numb.
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-Numb?
-I don't know if numb is the right word.
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It just feels like an energy, you know.
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Yeah, you're right. See if you can sense
your whole hand from the inside
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in the same way.
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Take your time.
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If you've never done this before,
it's hard.
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Yeah, I can feel something in there.
Like...
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You do?
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Let it just...
Gently let your attention go up your arm.
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Yeah.
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See if you can sense your whole arm
from the inside.
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Yeah, it feels like there's wolves
running in my arm.
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Oh. It does not.
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See if you can sense both of your arms
at the same time from the inside.
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Yeah, I could do that.
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And if you can do that, add your legs,
so that you can sense your arms
246
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and your legs at the same time
from the inside.
247
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Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, I can do that.
248
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[Mom] That...
249
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is presence.
250
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That's weird.
251
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-I've never done that before. It's weird.
-That's presence.
252
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And what you're doing
is you're not in your mind.
253
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This gets you out of your mind.
254
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You are not mediating your sense
of your arms and legs through your mind.
255
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-[Duncan exhales]
-Through your mind. Mental.
256
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So that's a way to get out of your head.
257
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That's what you can do immediately
when you're on the side of the river
258
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being nibbled by weasels and bees.
259
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[whirring]
260
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[gasps]
261
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[exhales]
262
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[squeaks]
263
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[Duncan exhales]
264
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[exhales]
265
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[crunches]
266
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[exhaling]
267
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[crunches]
268
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[exhaling]
269
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[Duncan grunts]
270
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-[squealing]
-[baby crying]
271
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[groaning]
272
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[panting]
273
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[screaming]
274
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[Mom's voice] And so the next thing
you can do, Duncan...
275
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Yes?
276
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...is, while you are sensing
your arms and your legs simultaneously...
277
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Yes.
278
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...add two more facets.
279
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Look. Sense your arms and legs and look.
280
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-Look at what?
-Whatever you see.
281
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Just let it come to you.
282
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-Don't search it out.
-Okay.
283
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Just take in what you see.
284
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It's a bee with a thousand eyes and horns,
285
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-holding a dagger covered in pentagrams.
-If you're on the side of the river,
286
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what else could it be?
287
00:14:23,028 --> 00:14:25,072
-You know--
-Wait a minute. There's one more piece.
288
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Go ahead.
289
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And listen.
290
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So you sense your arms and legs...
291
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you look and you listen,
all at the same time.
292
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Three things you're doing.
293
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Yeah, I get it. It gives you
a kind of clarity. It kind of...
294
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It gives you clarity
295
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and it takes you into a slightly different
dimension of consciousness.
296
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[sirens wailing]
297
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It's quite different, actually.
It is quite different.
298
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Because I've got a microphone in my face,
it's hard for me to do what I would...
299
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Like if I was really sitting by myself...
300
00:15:06,405 --> 00:15:09,408
But I think that this recipe
for a meditative exercise is awesome.
301
00:15:09,491 --> 00:15:13,746
Well, what it does is it allows you
to get into presence without a teacher
302
00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:16,165
and without a penny to your name.
303
00:15:16,248 --> 00:15:19,627
-Yes.
-And even as you are in that...
304
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um, state of presence...
305
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if you are in it, even for a minute,
306
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if you can stay in it for a minute,
you will begin to sense the flow...
307
00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,014
-Right.
-...of energy.
308
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You will sense that there is a river,
309
00:15:34,308 --> 00:15:36,226
because a lot of people
on the side of the river
310
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don't even realize there's a river.
311
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Right.
312
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-So--
-What's the river?
313
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It's reality, with its...
314
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flowing dynamism.
315
00:15:47,237 --> 00:15:49,531
I mean,
if you look out there at the world,
316
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you'll see that it's constantly changing
and transforming all the time.
317
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-The same thing is true inside of us.
-[Duncan] Right.
318
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And there's a flow to it.
You can sense a flow to it.
319
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But you can't unless you're in presence.
320
00:16:02,586 --> 00:16:06,173
Because if you're in
your mental thinking mind,
321
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it's your ordinary mind
and you won't be able to do it.
322
00:16:09,259 --> 00:16:10,094
Right.
323
00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:13,764
So, it's just really easy.
324
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You can move back and forth
325
00:16:15,724 --> 00:16:18,727
between these dimensions
of ordinary consciousness
326
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and something
that is out of space and time.
327
00:16:21,939 --> 00:16:25,859
Right. And that thing
outside of space and time is...
328
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Is more real than the mental constructs.
329
00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:32,157
-That's your true identity--
-It's what we've been talking about.
330
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'Cause all of that is just...
331
00:16:34,743 --> 00:16:37,663
stuff that you've learned
throughout your life...
332
00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:41,875
because of the family you were born in
and the situations you had,
333
00:16:41,959 --> 00:16:46,088
the circumstances you were in
and your natural proclivities.
334
00:16:47,464 --> 00:16:50,426
What's interesting to do is,
from that place,
335
00:16:50,509 --> 00:16:53,887
if you can learn to stay in that place
and sustain it for a minute...
336
00:16:53,971 --> 00:16:55,347
-Say for a minute.
-Yes.
337
00:16:55,431 --> 00:16:58,684
Then you will find yourself
with questions that come up.
338
00:16:58,767 --> 00:17:02,521
Like just naturally arising questions.
Not questions that you read in a book.
339
00:17:02,604 --> 00:17:05,107
Just, "Hmm, I wonder..." something.
340
00:17:05,190 --> 00:17:06,859
"I wonder how come blah, blah, blah."
341
00:17:06,942 --> 00:17:10,863
And, generally speaking,
the very first thing that is gonna come up
342
00:17:10,946 --> 00:17:12,197
is a judgment about it.
343
00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:15,242
Something that is gonna say,
"This is a really bad idea.
344
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Go back to being who you really are."
345
00:17:17,578 --> 00:17:19,121
Which is your old ego self.
346
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A dick.
347
00:17:20,289 --> 00:17:22,916
[inhales deeply] You know, it's...
348
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,168
Perhaps a dick,
349
00:17:24,251 --> 00:17:27,629
but, on the other hand,
it could be a baby sucking tit.
350
00:17:28,130 --> 00:17:31,050
I don't think so. I think most people,
it's more... I would...
351
00:17:31,133 --> 00:17:34,428
A baby sucking on a boob is a sweet thing,
but many people are so...
352
00:17:35,012 --> 00:17:37,514
[clears throat]
You know, I see it as a kind of...
353
00:17:39,516 --> 00:17:42,853
I've seen video
of dogs that have been beaten
354
00:17:42,936 --> 00:17:44,480
and someone's giving them meat.
355
00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:46,273
And as they're handing the dog food,
356
00:17:46,356 --> 00:17:48,317
all the way up to giving the dog food,
the dog's...
357
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,693
[growling]
358
00:17:49,777 --> 00:17:53,363
...pissed, growling. But you can see
that the dog just can't control it.
359
00:17:53,739 --> 00:17:56,158
There's people
whose personalities have cramped up
360
00:17:56,241 --> 00:17:57,993
and become a growling, snarling dog
361
00:17:58,077 --> 00:18:00,996
and anything that you bring to it,
it's gonna growl and snarl.
362
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,748
And that's why I say a dick.
363
00:18:02,831 --> 00:18:03,832
Okay, but I...
364
00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:05,167
You know, I could say...
365
00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:08,462
I could say that is a perfect example
of what I'm talking about
366
00:18:08,545 --> 00:18:10,714
with the tit imagery.
367
00:18:10,798 --> 00:18:11,924
The sucking the tit.
368
00:18:12,007 --> 00:18:15,010
Because
if you have been around tit suckers...
369
00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:17,638
[laughs] My whole life.
370
00:18:17,721 --> 00:18:21,934
If you have been around a real,
live tit sucker, which means a baby--
371
00:18:22,017 --> 00:18:24,061
Are you talking about a baby?
Can we just call them...
372
00:18:24,144 --> 00:18:27,064
-Let's call them babies.
-Okay, we'll call this a baby.
373
00:18:27,147 --> 00:18:28,690
-So--
-That'd be awesome
374
00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:31,068
if people called babies "tit suckers."
375
00:18:31,151 --> 00:18:34,738
[laughing]
376
00:18:35,155 --> 00:18:39,743
Well, this baby... Okay, so there are
babies that get so frustrated
377
00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:42,996
because their mother
does not come and deliver the tit...
378
00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:44,957
when the baby wants it
379
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,417
that the baby screams and screams
and screams.
380
00:18:47,501 --> 00:18:51,630
By the time the mother comes, the baby
is so frustrated, he'll bite her tit.
381
00:18:51,713 --> 00:18:53,423
-[Duncan] Really?
-Like the dog and the meat.
382
00:18:53,507 --> 00:18:57,010
Yes. He'll reject her,
even though he's starving.
383
00:18:57,094 --> 00:18:58,595
[Duncan] So what you're talking about
384
00:18:58,679 --> 00:19:01,265
is the way so many people
are reacting to the world,
385
00:19:01,348 --> 00:19:03,058
which is that they are so upset
386
00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:05,102
that they haven't received
the thing they wanted
387
00:19:05,185 --> 00:19:07,104
and then
when the thing finally does come,
388
00:19:07,187 --> 00:19:10,691
they try to punish everyone around them
with the thing that they got.
389
00:19:10,774 --> 00:19:11,942
-Exactly.
-Right.
390
00:19:12,025 --> 00:19:13,569
And that drives it away.
391
00:19:13,652 --> 00:19:17,072
Because if you are in a state of poverty,
392
00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:19,158
there's a certain amount
that you can control.
393
00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:20,951
Some stuff,
you might not be able to control.
394
00:19:21,034 --> 00:19:23,328
When the tornado comes
whipping through your neighborhood
395
00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:27,207
and your house gets blown down
and somehow you didn't have insurance
396
00:19:27,291 --> 00:19:29,501
and you lose everything,
you can't control that.
397
00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:32,963
But you can certainly control
how you're gonna react to that situation.
398
00:19:33,046 --> 00:19:36,049
If you can become aware
of your reactivity,
399
00:19:36,133 --> 00:19:40,929
then you can respond to it more easily,
rather than just repeat the reactions.
400
00:19:41,013 --> 00:19:42,973
Because the house
is always gonna get knocked down.
401
00:19:43,056 --> 00:19:44,266
That's part of life.
402
00:19:44,349 --> 00:19:46,435
The house gets knocked down.
403
00:19:47,019 --> 00:19:48,645
There's just no way out of that.
404
00:19:49,313 --> 00:19:50,480
There is no way out of it.
405
00:19:50,564 --> 00:19:53,025
But if you will think about all the times
406
00:19:53,108 --> 00:19:55,277
that your houses have gotten
knocked down in your life...
407
00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:56,195
Yes.
408
00:19:56,278 --> 00:19:58,238
They are actually
the transformative moments.
409
00:19:58,322 --> 00:19:59,907
-[Duncan] Right.
-[squeaking]
410
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:03,911
That kind of brings us to the idea...
411
00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:07,497
to something that you
have been dealing with for four years now,
412
00:20:08,123 --> 00:20:12,127
which is that you have
stage-four bone cancer.
413
00:20:12,669 --> 00:20:16,048
-[Mom] Metastatic breast cancer.
-[Duncan] Metastatic breast cancer.
414
00:20:16,757 --> 00:20:19,968
And this is an extreme, extreme...
415
00:20:20,636 --> 00:20:24,139
version of a tornado
knocking a house down.
416
00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:28,810
Because, four years ago, you called
to tell us that that you had...
417
00:20:29,811 --> 00:20:31,396
six months to live.
418
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,358
I have been told that
at least a dozen times.
419
00:20:35,150 --> 00:20:37,653
A dozen times
that you've had six months to live.
420
00:20:37,736 --> 00:20:42,366
I have been told to call a crematorium
and find out how much it would cost...
421
00:20:42,449 --> 00:20:43,367
[Duncan sighs]
422
00:20:43,450 --> 00:20:47,162
...to be cremated, because I had
maybe a month or six weeks,
423
00:20:47,246 --> 00:20:48,622
and that I needed to know that,
424
00:20:48,705 --> 00:20:51,250
so that I could pay the money up-front
425
00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:52,668
-[beeping]
-...before I die.
426
00:20:52,751 --> 00:20:55,379
And I have made the call
to the crematorium
427
00:20:55,462 --> 00:20:59,049
and I found out that it was $750,
thank you very much.
428
00:20:59,591 --> 00:21:00,467
[Duncan] Wow.
429
00:21:01,134 --> 00:21:03,303
God, that is so fucked.
430
00:21:04,638 --> 00:21:10,936
The possibility that there
is some kind of force that, um...
431
00:21:11,019 --> 00:21:11,853
[whirring]
432
00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:14,523
...will take us out
when it's time to go out...
433
00:21:15,107 --> 00:21:17,109
is nothing that I can do anything about.
434
00:21:18,068 --> 00:21:19,987
-So I may as well make peace with it.
-Right.
435
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:24,283
It's easier to go with the flow
of that particular river
436
00:21:24,366 --> 00:21:26,118
than it is to try to fight it.
437
00:21:26,201 --> 00:21:29,413
That there is that possibility.
We are all gonna die.
438
00:21:29,997 --> 00:21:31,039
I know.
439
00:21:31,581 --> 00:21:32,582
And that...
440
00:21:33,250 --> 00:21:35,502
This is that saying,
and I don't know where it comes from,
441
00:21:35,585 --> 00:21:37,754
but that meditation
is preparation for death.
442
00:21:37,838 --> 00:21:38,880
I think that's true.
443
00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:43,719
And meditation is one spiritual practice
that prepares us for death.
444
00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:47,639
But also, you know,
if you look at the world,
445
00:21:47,723 --> 00:21:50,559
what you see
is things appearing and disappearing,
446
00:21:50,642 --> 00:21:53,395
and humans are a part
of the whole of that,
447
00:21:53,478 --> 00:21:55,772
and humans appear and they disappear.
448
00:21:55,856 --> 00:21:58,025
-[Duncan] Hmm.
-Off the face of the Earth.
449
00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:00,319
That just happens.
450
00:22:00,402 --> 00:22:04,823
You know, our egos personalize it
and we consider ourselves special cases.
451
00:22:04,906 --> 00:22:07,617
-Yes.
-But we're really not, you know?
452
00:22:08,243 --> 00:22:11,246
We are a part of the whole
453
00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:14,082
and everything in the whole
transforms all the time.
454
00:22:15,167 --> 00:22:16,835
It changes form. Transfigures.
455
00:22:21,548 --> 00:22:22,758
You're a special case.
456
00:22:23,258 --> 00:22:27,554
-[chuckles] That's 'cause I'm your mama.
-[laughs] No!
457
00:22:28,138 --> 00:22:31,600
No, I know there's... I know, but come on.
458
00:22:31,683 --> 00:22:34,269
There's no way to stop the heartbreak.
How do you...
459
00:22:34,728 --> 00:22:35,896
What do you do about that?
460
00:22:35,979 --> 00:22:37,147
You cry.
461
00:22:39,441 --> 00:22:40,275
You cry.
462
00:22:42,819 --> 00:22:49,785
[vocalizing]
463
00:22:59,294 --> 00:23:00,128
[sniffles]
464
00:23:01,046 --> 00:23:02,047
It's really hard.
465
00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:13,433
But it's definitely something
everyone's got to, you know, deal with.
466
00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:14,351
Yeah.
467
00:23:16,436 --> 00:23:18,188
[Duncan] And it's such a strange thing.
468
00:23:18,271 --> 00:23:20,816
I mean, the universe, it...
469
00:23:20,899 --> 00:23:23,402
-it seems so stable...
-[machines whirring]
470
00:23:23,485 --> 00:23:24,903
[Duncan] ...if you are...
471
00:23:25,570 --> 00:23:26,738
you know....
472
00:23:26,822 --> 00:23:27,656
[whirring]
473
00:23:27,739 --> 00:23:29,908
...in this kind of automatic state.
474
00:23:33,203 --> 00:23:36,039
And the encounter with truth,
475
00:23:36,123 --> 00:23:37,833
which, for me, you dying...
476
00:23:37,916 --> 00:23:38,792
your dying....
477
00:23:38,875 --> 00:23:41,378
This thing has been
probably the greatest...
478
00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:44,840
run-in with truth that I've had
in my whole life.
479
00:23:44,923 --> 00:23:45,882
You can't really...
480
00:23:46,842 --> 00:23:48,218
It's inexpressible.
481
00:23:48,301 --> 00:23:49,136
Yeah.
482
00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:52,222
But it's not like it makes you feel...
483
00:23:53,223 --> 00:23:55,517
This... This is not a feeling of, like...
484
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,228
-This is not a desirable feeling.
-No.
485
00:24:00,355 --> 00:24:03,733
But it's a feeling that every single
human being will experience
486
00:24:03,817 --> 00:24:04,901
one way or the other.
487
00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:05,944
It is.
488
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:13,618
But so much...
So many of us are spending so much time
489
00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:16,705
engaged in just ridiculous activities,
490
00:24:16,788 --> 00:24:19,875
it seems like,
just to try to avoid this experience.
491
00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:20,917
Exactly.
492
00:24:21,001 --> 00:24:25,672
People really try to avoid
the consideration that they are gonna die
493
00:24:25,755 --> 00:24:27,757
and that people they love are gonna die.
494
00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:31,011
It opens your heart.
It breaks your heart open.
495
00:24:31,094 --> 00:24:32,471
-[Duncan] Yes.
-You know?
496
00:24:32,554 --> 00:24:36,850
Our hearts have been closed,
because we've closed them.
497
00:24:36,933 --> 00:24:39,311
We've defended ourselves against pain.
498
00:24:39,394 --> 00:24:41,271
And this opens them.
499
00:25:00,207 --> 00:25:01,541
[Duncan] Opening your heart sucks.
500
00:25:01,625 --> 00:25:03,376
-[Mom] It hurts.
-[Duncan] This is the thing.
501
00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:06,338
This is the thing Ram Dass
talks about all the... It hurts.
502
00:25:06,421 --> 00:25:07,589
Does it always hurt?
503
00:25:09,633 --> 00:25:11,801
Does opening your heart always just hurt?
504
00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:13,678
Are you just in a constant state of--
505
00:25:13,762 --> 00:25:15,472
[Mom] No, it doesn't always hurt.
506
00:25:16,181 --> 00:25:18,558
But when it really cracks open, it hurts.
507
00:25:19,267 --> 00:25:20,477
You know? And it does.
508
00:25:20,977 --> 00:25:26,024
Even the hurt transforms,
because if you inquire into the hurt,
509
00:25:26,107 --> 00:25:28,360
you know what you're experiencing is love.
510
00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:30,654
-Right.
-The real deal.
511
00:25:31,321 --> 00:25:32,614
[explosion]
512
00:25:33,323 --> 00:25:37,327
[sirens wailing]
513
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:44,626
[explosion]
514
00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:46,461
[Duncan] Yeah, it's... Yeah, right.
515
00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:48,672
Because it's seeing newness.
516
00:25:48,755 --> 00:25:52,050
It's seeing how much you value life.
517
00:25:52,133 --> 00:25:56,555
[Mom] Yes. And the reason
I look better now than I ever have
518
00:25:56,638 --> 00:25:59,933
-is because I am more fully living.
-[Duncan] Right.
519
00:26:00,016 --> 00:26:02,644
[Mom]
Because I'm living and dying consciously.
520
00:26:03,687 --> 00:26:05,939
Simultaneously, I'm holding both.
521
00:26:14,447 --> 00:26:15,699
[roars]
522
00:26:22,872 --> 00:26:25,166
[Duncan] What advice
would you give to people out there
523
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:26,585
who are dealing with this?
524
00:26:31,006 --> 00:26:34,634
[Mom] I would tell them to cry
when they need to cry.
525
00:26:35,218 --> 00:26:40,765
And to turn toward this thing
that's called death. Turn toward it.
526
00:26:41,308 --> 00:26:44,894
And even if you're afraid
to turn toward it, turn toward it.
527
00:26:45,478 --> 00:26:46,438
It won't hurt you.
528
00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:52,527
And see what it has to teach you.
529
00:26:52,611 --> 00:26:55,697
It's a tremendous teacher, free of charge.
530
00:26:55,780 --> 00:26:59,868
I don't think it'd sell a lot
of goddamn tickets if it was trying to.
531
00:26:59,951 --> 00:27:01,828
[laughing]
532
00:27:01,911 --> 00:27:05,040
That's a show I'm gonna skip if I can.
533
00:27:07,083 --> 00:27:07,917
Ah.
534
00:27:08,251 --> 00:27:09,085
Wow.
535
00:27:09,169 --> 00:27:11,463
But it's a teacher.
We're talking about teachers.
536
00:27:11,546 --> 00:27:13,089
It's a real... It's the real deal.
537
00:27:13,173 --> 00:27:14,132
Yes.
538
00:27:14,215 --> 00:27:18,595
And, you know, what I find is that, um...
539
00:27:19,095 --> 00:27:23,433
[Mom continues]
...the closer I get to physical death...
540
00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:25,852
the more alive I feel
541
00:27:25,935 --> 00:27:28,813
and the more present I feel
and the more...
542
00:27:29,314 --> 00:27:30,440
real I am.
543
00:27:30,940 --> 00:27:33,526
And I realize that...
544
00:27:34,611 --> 00:27:38,948
I have no idea
what lies on the other side of...
545
00:27:39,574 --> 00:27:40,408
physical death,
546
00:27:40,492 --> 00:27:44,204
but that there is so much aliveness
that's building in me...
547
00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:48,375
that I can't help but think
there is some connection between that
548
00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:51,419
and the movement toward physical death.
549
00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:55,048
-Yeah, well--
-I can't explain that.
550
00:27:55,131 --> 00:27:57,008
I don't have an explanation for that.
551
00:27:57,509 --> 00:28:01,012
But I do think that we suffer more
552
00:28:01,096 --> 00:28:04,599
if we resist that flow of the river.
553
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:06,643
-Right.
-And it's always flowing.
554
00:28:06,726 --> 00:28:09,729
If we...
If we try to get over there to the side,
555
00:28:09,813 --> 00:28:13,149
so that we can get on the bank
and be exempt from the flow,
556
00:28:13,233 --> 00:28:16,569
that's where we begin to suffer
more and more.
557
00:28:16,653 --> 00:28:17,487
[explosion]
558
00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:19,781
-It's just letting go into that thing.
-Yes.
559
00:28:21,074 --> 00:28:24,119
And the amazing thing
about letting go into it
560
00:28:24,202 --> 00:28:28,123
is that you find
that this thing called love...
561
00:28:28,665 --> 00:28:31,334
is supportive, that it holds us.
562
00:28:31,418 --> 00:28:35,505
It has a quality of benevolence
that we might have never noticed.
563
00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:39,092
And we ask, "What's that?"
564
00:28:39,175 --> 00:28:41,594
What is it
that has the quality of benevolence?
565
00:28:41,678 --> 00:28:45,140
And the only word
that I can come up with is "reality."
566
00:28:45,223 --> 00:28:48,268
Reality actually has
this quality of benevolence.
567
00:28:48,351 --> 00:28:49,853
[Duncan] Yes. Right.
568
00:28:50,729 --> 00:28:52,897
And even benevolence is not...
569
00:28:52,981 --> 00:28:55,066
It's a very small word for what it is,
isn't it?
570
00:28:55,150 --> 00:28:58,361
-Yes.
-It's just like... It's just so intense.
571
00:28:58,445 --> 00:29:02,157
This experience of love energy
is so powerful
572
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,453
that to combat against it,
we build an entire life, an entire ego,
573
00:29:06,536 --> 00:29:07,662
to try to not feel it.
574
00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:10,331
-Yes.
-It is so overwhelming.
575
00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:12,041
It is. It's a killer.
576
00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:13,418
-It's ego death.
-Yeah.
577
00:29:14,878 --> 00:29:16,254
Not desirable.
578
00:29:16,337 --> 00:29:19,549
It is desirable and that's why it hurts.
It's ego death.
579
00:29:20,049 --> 00:29:23,094
Your heart cracks open
and your ego is dying.
580
00:29:23,178 --> 00:29:24,012
Right.
581
00:29:24,554 --> 00:29:28,558
But you find that ego death
is a transfiguration.
582
00:29:29,058 --> 00:29:31,102
It's an alchemical transfiguration.
583
00:29:32,687 --> 00:29:36,608
Yeah. 'Cause, yeah, who wants
to carry around this fucking weight?
584
00:29:37,233 --> 00:29:38,067
You don't.
585
00:29:38,151 --> 00:29:39,444
[cracking]
586
00:29:39,527 --> 00:29:40,361
I don't.
587
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,085
Well, I love you very much, obviously.
588
00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:58,671
I love you too.
589
00:30:01,758 --> 00:30:05,553
And, Duncan, that kind of love
isn't going anywhere.
590
00:30:08,681 --> 00:30:10,266
That's another thing you find.
591
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:17,065
That I may leave this plane of existence
sooner rather than later...
592
00:30:17,732 --> 00:30:19,984
but the love isn't going anywhere.
593
00:30:21,653 --> 00:30:23,780
I'm as certain of that
as I am of anything.
594
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:36,584
Right.
595
00:30:37,752 --> 00:30:38,670
I believe you.
596
00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:47,637
Let's cut to a commercial.
597
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,806
[jazz playing]
598
00:30:49,889 --> 00:30:51,683
[sirens wailing]
599
00:30:51,766 --> 00:30:52,934
[man] Surround him!
600
00:30:53,017 --> 00:30:55,270
Oh, Dad, come on! Oh! Ah!
[screaming]
601
00:30:55,353 --> 00:30:57,105
Unlicensed sim user,
602
00:30:57,188 --> 00:31:01,609
you have been judged guilty of illegal
harvesting by Magistrate Hoops.
603
00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:05,113
-Lay down on your floor and crawl outside!
-Ow! Dad!
604
00:31:05,196 --> 00:31:06,656
Stand still. Listen up!
605
00:31:06,739 --> 00:31:08,366
List his crimes.
606
00:31:08,449 --> 00:31:10,243
I will list all your crimes.
607
00:31:10,326 --> 00:31:12,996
Crime one, green oil theft.
608
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:14,247
Crime two--
609
00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:16,082
[policemen] Cops, cops, cops!
610
00:31:16,165 --> 00:31:18,626
Ow! Dad, no!
611
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:19,711
Open your eyes, Daniel.
612
00:31:19,794 --> 00:31:20,670
No. Come on, Dad.
613
00:31:20,753 --> 00:31:22,547
-Daniel, open your eyes!
-Dad, no!
614
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:25,049
[gunshots]
615
00:31:25,133 --> 00:31:26,384
[policemen] Crime four,
616
00:31:26,467 --> 00:31:27,635
being stupid.
617
00:31:27,719 --> 00:31:29,137
I'm a good dad.
618
00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:30,597
Crime five...
619
00:31:31,431 --> 00:31:32,599
Uh-oh, the feds.
620
00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:36,978
Burn it, boys!
621
00:31:37,061 --> 00:31:38,146
Yes, Magistrate.
622
00:31:38,229 --> 00:31:40,064
[policemen] Cops! Cops!
623
00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:43,526
-[policeman] Hiya!
-Cops! [grunting]
624
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:46,988
Why won't it light, Jim?
625
00:31:47,071 --> 00:31:50,158
If the wind's... The wind's shifted.
Move over here. No, it's shifted back.
626
00:31:50,241 --> 00:31:51,492
-Jim!
-Still ain't working.
627
00:31:52,076 --> 00:31:53,161
Cops!
628
00:31:54,537 --> 00:31:55,371
We're cops!
629
00:31:55,455 --> 00:31:56,456
I am a cop!
630
00:32:00,126 --> 00:32:01,085
Criminal!
631
00:32:01,169 --> 00:32:04,797
Eject from that simulator
or I will blast you
632
00:32:04,881 --> 00:32:06,007
in five...
633
00:32:06,716 --> 00:32:08,426
-four... three...
-[Duncan screams]
634
00:32:08,509 --> 00:32:09,510
[gun cocks]
635
00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:11,137
...two... one...
636
00:32:14,349 --> 00:32:15,224
[barks]
637
00:32:15,808 --> 00:32:17,143
-[explosion]
-[all screaming]
638
00:32:17,226 --> 00:32:18,770
Oh, dang!
639
00:32:18,853 --> 00:32:20,563
[screaming]
640
00:32:20,647 --> 00:32:23,775
-[explosion]
-[all screaming]
641
00:32:23,858 --> 00:32:25,944
[policeman] I need to-- Oh, my God!
642
00:32:26,027 --> 00:32:29,238
[shrieks] It's wobbling!
Forfeit your bodies, children.
643
00:32:29,322 --> 00:32:31,950
We will live in the electric light!
644
00:32:34,410 --> 00:32:35,954
[distant implosion]
645
00:32:36,871 --> 00:32:38,873
[explosion]
646
00:33:03,147 --> 00:33:04,023
Get in.
647
00:33:08,861 --> 00:33:10,113
-[rock music playing]
-[clinking]
648
00:33:10,196 --> 00:33:13,783
♪ You lose your mind ♪
649
00:33:13,866 --> 00:33:17,662
-♪ All things dissolve in time... ♪
-[playing rhythmic music]
650
00:33:20,331 --> 00:33:24,085
[clinking]
651
00:33:24,168 --> 00:33:29,090
♪ Slowly diminishing ♪
652
00:33:30,967 --> 00:33:34,429
♪ And fears subside ♪
653
00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:36,055
♪ All things... ♪
654
00:33:36,139 --> 00:33:39,100
Do you mind if I interview you
for my, um...
655
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,518
Am I dead?
656
00:33:41,436 --> 00:33:43,813
Just be here now.
657
00:33:43,896 --> 00:33:45,148
[playing rhythmic music]
658
00:33:45,231 --> 00:33:47,442
[man] Just be here now.
659
00:33:47,525 --> 00:33:50,737
[rock music continues]
660
00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:51,738
[vocalizing]
661
00:33:51,821 --> 00:33:54,782
♪ Ooh, all of your dreams ♪
662
00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:59,495
♪ Will wash away ♪
663
00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:08,588
♪ Ooh, all of your dreams ♪
664
00:34:08,671 --> 00:34:13,301
♪ Will wash away ♪
665
00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:30,443
[distortion buzzing]
666
00:34:30,526 --> 00:34:34,405
[Mom] So, anyway, call me back whenever.
I know you're busy with your podcast.
667
00:34:34,489 --> 00:34:37,492
But what you were saying is so true,
about the soul.
668
00:34:37,575 --> 00:34:40,912
That's such an interesting thing
and I wanted to talk to you about that,
669
00:34:40,995 --> 00:34:47,460
because, only this morning,
I was aware of this phenomenon in me
670
00:34:47,543 --> 00:34:50,880
that my soul could come full circle
and talk to itself.
671
00:34:50,963 --> 00:34:53,007
-[drumbeat pulsing]
-[Mom] But it's like I am...
672
00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:57,345
The soul and I are not estranged anymore.
673
00:34:57,428 --> 00:34:58,596
It's kind of interesting.
674
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,766
I'll talk to you later.
Bye. Bye. Bye.
675
00:35:01,849 --> 00:35:02,683
[man whispers] Wow.
676
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:09,732
-[electronic music playing]
-[voice chattering]
677
00:35:10,441 --> 00:35:15,905
♪ I am am not alive
I am not alive ♪
678
00:35:18,449 --> 00:35:21,369
♪ Floatin' in the air around you ♪
679
00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:26,374
♪ Waiting for you
To reach out, reach out ♪
680
00:35:26,457 --> 00:35:29,502
♪ Floatin' in the air around you ♪
681
00:35:30,169 --> 00:35:31,170
♪ Around ♪
682
00:35:34,465 --> 00:35:39,428
♪ I am not alive
But I never died ♪
683
00:35:42,473 --> 00:35:47,895
♪ I am not alive
But I never died ♪
684
00:35:50,481 --> 00:35:54,402
♪ I am not alive
I am not alive ♪
685
00:35:54,485 --> 00:35:58,739
♪ I am not alive
I am not alive ♪
686
00:36:00,825 --> 00:36:01,701
Chirp.