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‎NETFLIX 原創影集

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‎與模擬器結合，倒數計時三

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‎一

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‎-等一下
‎-好

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‎媽？

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‎嗨，媽

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‎-嗨，鄧肯
‎-要上我的影音博客嗎？

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‎（《午夜福音》
‎特別來賓：鄧南芬迪）

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‎有我這個兒子是什麼感覺？

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‎有你這個兒子我很開心

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‎妳…

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‎妳懷孕多久之後生下我？

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‎-你早了五個禮拜出生
‎-是嗎？

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‎-對
‎-發生什麼事？

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‎能講當時的過程嗎？

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‎-當然
‎-之後再聊妳的事

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‎沒有問題

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‎你提早五週出生

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‎當然嘍，那時滿月

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‎你出生那天…

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‎4月…20日？

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‎對

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‎我們跟你哥在泳池玩水

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‎我很清楚我到時間該去醫院了

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‎-不是在小泳池戲水
‎-是

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‎除非我想在小泳池裡生小孩

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‎-對
‎-我並不想

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‎於是我們去了醫院

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‎你很快就從我肚子裡蹦出來了

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‎-我必須出來
‎-當然嘍

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‎你有事要做

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‎我從妳肚子裡出來

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‎-對
‎-然後呢？

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‎嗯…

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‎妳做了什麼？看著我？

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‎生完小孩是什麼情況？

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‎-鄧肯，我不想透露太多私事
‎-沒關係

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‎-大家都知道我的事
‎-他們知道這件事嗎？

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‎你出生的時候

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‎尿在醫生的眼鏡上

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‎我沒提過這件事

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‎我不記得了

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‎一開始就發生這件事

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‎你來到世上，好像憋了九個月一樣

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‎我還是經常需要尿尿

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‎你當時尿在醫生的眼鏡上

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‎我尿在醫生的眼鏡上…

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‎我看著你做那件事

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‎他們是何時幫我剪掉的？

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‎就在那之後

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‎我尿在醫生的臉上後

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‎-他就把我老二前端的皮剪掉
‎-他…

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‎那…

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‎我以為你是說剪臍帶，再來是…

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‎不是，是割包…誰管臍帶啊！

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‎他們是什麼時候割包皮？

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‎大概兩分鐘後
‎很抱歉要跟你說，你當時哭了

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‎-真的
‎-當然！

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‎你尖叫了

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‎-誰不會？
‎-我覺得很過意不去

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‎我覺得那樣不好

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‎美國嬰兒都會經歷這個過程

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‎美國嬰兒從陰道裡跑出來

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‎尿在醫生臉上，然後被割包皮

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‎然後…

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‎-難怪我們都是瘋子
‎-不

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‎故事還沒結束

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‎然後他們用粉紅色的毯子把你包起來

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‎-“羞辱他”
‎-他們沒有藍的

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‎“羞辱他！”

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‎“剪掉他老二的前端
‎再用粉紅色毯子把他包起來”

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‎像是加入可怕的兄弟會
‎要經過的邪惡入會儀式

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‎其實滿好笑的，是個有趣的開始

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‎除了割包皮之外，我覺得很糟糕

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‎我不會再幫孩子割包皮了

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‎怎麼會沒有粉紅色毯子？

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‎-你是說藍色
‎-藍色，那是他們的工作

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‎當晚可能有很多男嬰出生

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‎-好
‎-我不知道

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‎等一下，我要確定正在錄

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‎所以…

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‎怎麼樣？

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‎妳把我生下來

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‎之後發生什麼事？

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‎-我開始哺乳
‎-好

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‎你很餓，你很瘦小

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‎-只有2.8公斤
‎-早產

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‎早了五週

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‎但很健康

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‎你的肺部等器官都正常

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‎那麼早產的孩子

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‎他們會放在新生兒…

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‎放在加護病房等等的

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‎但你沒事

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‎你哥走進房間，看到我在哺乳

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‎就跑到走廊對爸爸大喊

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‎說那個寶寶要把媽媽吃掉

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‎我忘記那件事了

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‎也算有道理

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‎傑夫以為是那樣

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‎傑夫看到那個瘦弱的惡魔
‎在吸媽媽的乳房

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‎可能從此留下陰影

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‎想一想，可能現在都還有陰影

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‎因為那個寶寶住進他家了

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‎妳退休前當了很多年的心理醫師

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‎-對
‎-妳覺得那種事情

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‎對人的個性有多大影響？

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‎影響重大

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‎這件事對第一個出生的孩子

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‎會帶來永久的改變

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‎因為突然要跟人分享東西

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‎突然人家叫你大哥哥、大姊姊
‎但其實你還小

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‎這會把人搞糊塗

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‎對

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‎18個月大的孩子並不大

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‎他們還穿尿布，仍然是寶寶

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‎突然要他們變成
‎另一個不是自己的身分

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‎這會永遠改變他們

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‎“當個大哥哥”

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‎大哥哥或大姊姊

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‎不要自私，幫媽媽照顧這個寶寶

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‎別要求什麼，別吵醒寶寶

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‎去做違背自己性格的事

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‎-這會讓人永遠改變
‎-所以…

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‎妳同意這種觀點
‎孩子在性格形成時期…

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‎會創造出一種模式，影響人的一生？

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‎對，我認為人生的頭五年

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‎性格結構會成形

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‎日後各種心靈層面的建設…

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‎都會回溯到你在原生家庭

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‎所形塑出的模式

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‎-這無法避免嗎？
‎-不行，你想想…

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‎如果你做的事都獲得正面的肯定

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‎你就會認定人就應該那樣做

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‎所以如果人家覺得你…

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‎你很棒，因為你幫媽媽拿寶寶的尿布

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‎你就會比較負責任

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‎你原本可能並沒那麼有責任感呢

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‎可能變得超級負責
‎或強迫自己要負責

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‎-對
‎-人具有原始的性格

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‎但如果你不回頭看看
‎什麼是真實的，什麼是不真實的

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‎你就會錯過通往現實的道路

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‎我認為靈性就是這麼一回事

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‎就是區分真實與不真實

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‎所以需要導師

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‎這個導師需要忠於真理

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‎問題是…很多人…

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‎我想到自己有段時間非常困惑混亂

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‎我不想成為自己，非常厭惡自己

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‎我把那當成參考點

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‎一個非常混亂的局面，窮困、負債

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‎困惑、亂七八糟的感情關係

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‎凌亂不堪

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‎有點像是順河而下
‎但你不會划獨木舟

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‎最後困在河邊的一堆樹枝裡

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‎全身都是蚊子

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‎很多人現在是這種狀況

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‎-他們…
‎-對

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‎-獨木舟
‎-幾乎每個人都是

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‎他們的舵壞掉了，最後停在河邊

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‎他們因此責備自己，討厭自己…

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‎假裝河邊才是自己要去的地方

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‎假裝被黃鼠狼和蜜蜂咬其實滿浪漫的

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‎要怎麼幫助那些在…

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‎如果那樣的人正在聽節目

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‎他們聽妳提到導師等等的

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‎心想：“我今天身上的錢
‎買三明治來吃都不夠”

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‎他們怎麼辦？

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‎他們可以採取哪些步驟
‎開始走向真理？

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‎我覺得最簡單的方式

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‎就是活在當下

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‎這表示把過去和未來都擺在一邊

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‎感受他們的身體

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‎這不用花一毛錢

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‎如果我們能學習
‎從內心感受自己、認識自己

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‎我們的意識狀態就會改變

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‎妳能告訴我那是什麼感覺嗎？

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‎你現在能感覺到手裡面嗎？

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‎等一下

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‎皮膚下面嗎？

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‎對，手的裡面

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‎-可以
‎-你感覺得到？

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‎我不知道是不是
‎我自己投射出那種感覺

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‎-但我能感覺…
‎-什麼感覺？

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‎有點像是把磁鐵推擠在一起

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‎有點像…有根釘子穿過

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‎-真的？
‎-我在十字架上

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‎-好
‎-我是耶穌

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‎我開玩笑的啦

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‎我能不能感覺到手的裡面？我沒…

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‎-感受你的手
‎-我沒…

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‎我沒試過

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‎好，我們現在試試

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‎感覺你的手

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‎由內感覺你的食指

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‎食指，那是小指

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‎好

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‎-有點暖
‎-對

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‎暖，還有呢？

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‎麻麻的，暖暖麻麻的

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‎-麻麻的？
‎-不知道是不是麻

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‎感覺有一股能量

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‎你說得對
‎看你能不能由內感受整隻手

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‎用同樣的方法

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‎慢慢來

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‎沒做過的話，會有點難

208
00:11:21,889 --> 00:11:24,266
‎我能感覺裡面有東西，像是…

209
00:11:24,350 --> 00:11:25,184
‎真的？

210
00:11:25,976 --> 00:11:28,521
‎把注意力慢慢轉移到手臂

211
00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,274
‎好

212
00:11:33,401 --> 00:11:35,861
‎看能不能由內感受整隻手臂

213
00:11:37,655 --> 00:11:39,907
‎感覺手臂有狼群在奔跑

214
00:11:40,908 --> 00:11:41,951
‎才沒有

215
00:11:42,702 --> 00:11:46,706
‎看你能不能由內感受兩隻手臂

216
00:11:46,789 --> 00:11:47,915
‎好，可以

217
00:11:48,416 --> 00:11:51,836
‎可以的話，加上兩條腿
‎看能不能由內

218
00:11:51,919 --> 00:11:53,629
‎感受雙臂跟雙腿

219
00:11:53,713 --> 00:11:56,006
‎很奇怪，我可以

220
00:11:56,090 --> 00:11:56,966
‎那個…

221
00:11:57,633 --> 00:11:58,509
‎就是存在

222
00:11:58,592 --> 00:11:59,427
‎好奇怪

223
00:12:00,386 --> 00:12:02,972
‎-我沒這樣做過，感覺很怪
‎-那就是存在

224
00:12:03,055 --> 00:12:05,349
‎這樣是讓你不在意識裡

225
00:12:05,433 --> 00:12:07,059
‎讓你抽離意識

226
00:12:07,143 --> 00:12:11,397
‎你不是透過意識
‎來調節雙臂和雙腿的感覺

227
00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,691
‎透過意識，精神上的

228
00:12:13,774 --> 00:12:15,401
‎是擺脫想法的一種方式

229
00:12:15,484 --> 00:12:18,946
‎你在河邊被黃鼠狼跟蜜蜂咬的時候

230
00:12:19,029 --> 00:12:22,908
‎就可以馬上這樣做

231
00:13:10,831 --> 00:13:12,917
‎（懷孕？）

232
00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:49,578
‎鄧肯，下一步你可以…

233
00:13:50,621 --> 00:13:51,455
‎是的？

234
00:13:51,539 --> 00:13:55,751
‎…在你同時感受雙臂跟雙腿時…

235
00:13:55,835 --> 00:13:56,794
‎是的

236
00:13:56,877 --> 00:13:59,755
‎…加上兩個面向

237
00:14:00,256 --> 00:14:02,758
‎看，感覺雙臂跟雙腿，然後看

238
00:14:03,717 --> 00:14:05,469
‎-看什麼？
‎-不管你看到什麼

239
00:14:05,553 --> 00:14:06,762
‎讓它自然發生

240
00:14:07,179 --> 00:14:09,223
‎-不要去尋覓
‎-好

241
00:14:09,723 --> 00:14:11,392
‎看到什麼就欣賞什麼

242
00:14:15,646 --> 00:14:17,606
‎有千隻眼與千個角的蜜蜂

243
00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:20,526
‎-拿著滿是五角星的匕首
‎-如果你在河邊

244
00:14:20,609 --> 00:14:21,944
‎那還有可能是什麼？

245
00:14:23,028 --> 00:14:25,072
‎-知道嗎…
‎-等等，還有一個面向

246
00:14:25,155 --> 00:14:26,031
‎請說

247
00:14:26,115 --> 00:14:27,324
‎聽

248
00:14:27,408 --> 00:14:29,660
‎感受你的雙臂和雙腿

249
00:14:30,369 --> 00:14:33,372
‎同時要一邊看，一邊聽

250
00:14:35,583 --> 00:14:37,209
‎你要做三件事

251
00:14:38,252 --> 00:14:42,089
‎-對，我知道，這能讓人清醒…
‎-讓你清醒

252
00:14:42,172 --> 00:14:45,885
‎帶你進入一個稍微不同的意識領域

253
00:14:56,437 --> 00:14:59,773
‎其實還滿不同的

254
00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:03,861
‎我面前有麥克風，我很難…

255
00:15:04,445 --> 00:15:06,322
‎跟自己一個人坐著不一樣

256
00:15:06,405 --> 00:15:09,408
‎但我覺得這個冥想訓練的方法很棒

257
00:15:09,491 --> 00:15:13,746
‎這能讓你進入狀況，不需要導師

258
00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:16,165
‎也不必花錢

259
00:15:16,248 --> 00:15:19,627
‎-對
‎-即使你身在…

260
00:15:21,253 --> 00:15:22,630
‎那種狀態…

261
00:15:23,422 --> 00:15:25,758
‎哪怕是一分鐘

262
00:15:25,841 --> 00:15:29,345
‎如果你能維持一分鐘
‎會開始感覺到一股…

263
00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,014
‎-對
‎-…能量

264
00:15:32,097 --> 00:15:34,224
‎你會感覺到真的有一條河流

265
00:15:34,308 --> 00:15:36,226
‎很多在河邊的人

266
00:15:36,310 --> 00:15:38,228
‎都不曉得那裡有河流

267
00:15:38,312 --> 00:15:39,188
‎對

268
00:15:40,105 --> 00:15:41,649
‎-所以…
‎-那條河流是什麼？

269
00:15:42,441 --> 00:15:44,777
‎是現實，以及它的…

270
00:15:45,235 --> 00:15:47,154
‎流動的動力

271
00:15:47,237 --> 00:15:49,531
‎如果你去看外面的世界

272
00:15:49,615 --> 00:15:54,495
‎會看到世界不斷在改變，在轉化

273
00:15:54,578 --> 00:15:56,580
‎-我們內心也一樣
‎-對

274
00:15:56,664 --> 00:15:59,667
‎你可以感覺到一股流動

275
00:16:00,626 --> 00:16:02,503
‎但你必須進入那個狀態才行

276
00:16:02,586 --> 00:16:06,173
‎因為如果你是用大腦在思考

277
00:16:06,256 --> 00:16:09,176
‎那是你平常的思維，你就感受不到

278
00:16:09,259 --> 00:16:10,094
‎對

279
00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:13,764
‎所以這真的很簡單

280
00:16:14,264 --> 00:16:17,393
‎你可以在普通意識的領域

281
00:16:17,476 --> 00:16:20,479
‎以及超越時空的領域當中

282
00:16:20,562 --> 00:16:21,855
‎來回穿梭

283
00:16:21,939 --> 00:16:25,859
‎對，那個超越時空的東西…

284
00:16:26,527 --> 00:16:29,446
‎比精神概念更真實

285
00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:32,157
‎-那是你真實的身分
‎-我們講的就是這個

286
00:16:32,241 --> 00:16:34,243
‎因為那些只是…

287
00:16:34,743 --> 00:16:37,663
‎你這輩子學到的東西

288
00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:41,875
‎因為你出生的家庭、面臨的情況

289
00:16:41,959 --> 00:16:46,088
‎所處的環境、天生的傾向

290
00:16:47,464 --> 00:16:50,426
‎有趣的是，從那個狀態…

291
00:16:50,509 --> 00:16:53,887
‎如果你能學會維持在那個狀態一分鐘

292
00:16:53,971 --> 00:16:55,347
‎-維持一分鐘
‎-對

293
00:16:55,431 --> 00:16:58,684
‎就會發現自己有些疑問

294
00:16:58,767 --> 00:17:02,521
‎自然產生的問題
‎不是你在書中看到的問題

295
00:17:02,604 --> 00:17:05,107
‎你會想知道…

296
00:17:05,190 --> 00:17:06,859
‎你會對事情有疑問

297
00:17:06,942 --> 00:17:10,863
‎一般來說，第一個出現的念頭

298
00:17:10,946 --> 00:17:12,197
‎就是對此批判

299
00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:15,242
‎讓你覺得那樣很不好

300
00:17:15,325 --> 00:17:17,494
‎要回到真實的自己

301
00:17:17,578 --> 00:17:19,121
‎就是以前的自我

302
00:17:19,204 --> 00:17:20,205
‎一個爛人

303
00:17:21,123 --> 00:17:22,916
‎這…

304
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,168
‎也許是個爛人

305
00:17:24,251 --> 00:17:27,629
‎但也可能是一個吸奶的寶寶

306
00:17:28,130 --> 00:17:31,050
‎不，我覺得大部分的人…

307
00:17:31,133 --> 00:17:34,428
‎寶寶吸奶是很美的事，但很多人…

308
00:17:35,429 --> 00:17:37,473
‎我覺得…

309
00:17:39,516 --> 00:17:42,853
‎我看過狗被打的影片

310
00:17:42,936 --> 00:17:44,480
‎然後有人拿肉給牠們

311
00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:46,273
‎他們拿食物給狗的時候

312
00:17:46,356 --> 00:17:48,317
‎拿肉給狗時，狗的情緒…

313
00:17:49,777 --> 00:17:53,197
‎很生氣，在咆哮，看得出狗無法克制

314
00:17:53,655 --> 00:17:56,158
‎有些人的個性扭曲

315
00:17:56,241 --> 00:17:57,993
‎變成咆哮狂吠的狗

316
00:17:58,077 --> 00:18:00,996
‎不管拿什麼給牠，牠都會狂叫

317
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,748
‎所以我說是爛人

318
00:18:02,831 --> 00:18:03,832
‎好，但我…

319
00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:05,167
‎我可以說…

320
00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:08,462
‎我可以說這是吸奶比喻的

321
00:18:08,545 --> 00:18:10,714
‎一個完美的例子

322
00:18:10,798 --> 00:18:11,924
‎寶寶吸奶

323
00:18:12,007 --> 00:18:15,010
‎如果你看過人在吸奶…

324
00:18:16,428 --> 00:18:17,638
‎我看多了

325
00:18:17,721 --> 00:18:21,934
‎如果你看過真正在吸奶的人
‎我是指嬰兒

326
00:18:22,017 --> 00:18:24,061
‎妳是說嬰兒嗎？可以稱…

327
00:18:24,144 --> 00:18:27,064
‎-就稱他們是嬰兒
‎-好，我們叫他們嬰兒

328
00:18:27,147 --> 00:18:30,025
‎-所以…
‎-如果大家都叫嬰兒“吸奶者”

329
00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:31,068
‎那就太棒了

330
00:18:35,155 --> 00:18:39,743
‎這個嬰兒…有些嬰兒會很不高興

331
00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:42,996
‎因為他們想吸奶的時候

332
00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:44,957
‎媽媽沒有馬上哺乳

333
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,417
‎嬰兒會不停哭鬧

334
00:18:47,501 --> 00:18:51,839
‎等媽媽來的時候
‎嬰兒會很生氣，咬她的乳頭

335
00:18:51,922 --> 00:18:53,423
‎-真的？
‎-跟餵狗吃肉一樣

336
00:18:53,507 --> 00:18:57,010
‎對，他會拒絕，即便他很餓

337
00:18:57,094 --> 00:18:58,595
‎妳說的是

338
00:18:58,679 --> 00:19:01,265
‎很多人對世界的反應

339
00:19:01,348 --> 00:19:03,058
‎他們很生氣

340
00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:05,102
‎因為沒得到自己想要的東西

341
00:19:05,185 --> 00:19:07,104
‎等終於得到的時候

342
00:19:07,187 --> 00:19:10,691
‎就想用那個東西來懲罰身邊的人

343
00:19:10,774 --> 00:19:11,942
‎-沒錯
‎-對

344
00:19:12,025 --> 00:19:13,569
‎這能排解憤怒

345
00:19:13,652 --> 00:19:17,072
‎如果你處於窮困狀態

346
00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:19,158
‎有一部分你能控制

347
00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:20,951
‎有些東西你可能無法控制

348
00:19:21,034 --> 00:19:23,328
‎當龍捲風侵襲你的社區

349
00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:27,207
‎你的房子垮掉，但你沒有保險

350
00:19:27,291 --> 00:19:29,501
‎你失去一切，這你無法控制

351
00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:32,963
‎但你絕對能控制自己
‎面對那種情況的反應

352
00:19:33,046 --> 00:19:36,049
‎如果你能意識到自己的反應

353
00:19:36,133 --> 00:19:40,929
‎就能更容易對此做出回應
‎不只是重複那些反應

354
00:19:41,013 --> 00:19:42,973
‎因為房子終究會垮掉

355
00:19:43,056 --> 00:19:44,266
‎那就是人生

356
00:19:44,349 --> 00:19:46,435
‎房子會垮

357
00:19:47,019 --> 00:19:48,645
‎無法避免

358
00:19:49,313 --> 00:19:50,480
‎沒有辦法

359
00:19:50,564 --> 00:19:53,025
‎但如果你想想這輩子

360
00:19:53,108 --> 00:19:55,903
‎你的房子垮掉的那些時刻

361
00:19:55,986 --> 00:19:58,238
‎其實都是人生轉捩點

362
00:19:58,322 --> 00:19:59,156
‎對

363
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:03,911
‎這讓我想到有件事…

364
00:20:03,994 --> 00:20:07,497
‎妳已經跟它搏鬥了四年

365
00:20:08,123 --> 00:20:12,127
‎就是第四期骨癌

366
00:20:12,669 --> 00:20:15,631
‎-轉移性乳癌
‎-轉移性乳癌

367
00:20:16,757 --> 00:20:19,968
‎這是龍捲風…

368
00:20:20,636 --> 00:20:24,139
‎吹垮房子的一個極端例子

369
00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:28,810
‎因為四年前妳打電話告訴我們
‎說妳只剩…

370
00:20:29,811 --> 00:20:31,396
‎六個月的生命

371
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,358
‎他們告訴過我起碼十遍

372
00:20:35,150 --> 00:20:37,653
‎他們告訴妳十遍以上
‎妳只剩六個月的生命

373
00:20:37,736 --> 00:20:42,449
‎他們要我聯絡火葬場
‎看火葬費用多少

374
00:20:42,991 --> 00:20:47,162
‎因為我只剩一個月或六週的生命

375
00:20:47,246 --> 00:20:48,622
‎我需要知道花費

376
00:20:48,705 --> 00:20:52,668
‎才能在生前先付款

377
00:20:52,751 --> 00:20:55,379
‎我聯絡了火葬場

378
00:20:55,462 --> 00:20:59,049
‎得知費用是750美元，多謝關照

379
00:20:59,591 --> 00:21:00,467
‎哇

380
00:21:01,134 --> 00:21:03,303
‎真是糟糕

381
00:21:04,638 --> 00:21:10,269
‎有某種力量
‎可能在我們終將離開的時候

382
00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:14,523
‎結束我們的生命…

383
00:21:15,107 --> 00:21:17,109
‎那是我無能為力的

384
00:21:18,068 --> 00:21:19,987
‎-不如坦然接受
‎-對

385
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:24,283
‎順著那條河流，而不是與之對抗

386
00:21:24,366 --> 00:21:26,118
‎這樣會比較簡單

387
00:21:26,201 --> 00:21:29,413
‎有這種可能，人都會死

388
00:21:29,997 --> 00:21:31,039
‎我知道

389
00:21:31,581 --> 00:21:32,582
‎而且…

390
00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:35,502
‎有一句話，我不知道是哪來的

391
00:21:35,585 --> 00:21:37,754
‎說冥想是為死亡做準備

392
00:21:37,838 --> 00:21:38,880
‎我覺得沒錯

393
00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:43,719
‎冥想是為死亡做準備的一種心靈練習

394
00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:47,639
‎你去看看這個世界

395
00:21:47,723 --> 00:21:50,559
‎會看到各種事物出現又消失

396
00:21:50,642 --> 00:21:53,395
‎人類就是其中一項

397
00:21:53,478 --> 00:21:55,772
‎人類出生又死亡

398
00:21:56,565 --> 00:21:58,025
‎離開人世

399
00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:00,319
‎這是常態

400
00:22:00,402 --> 00:22:04,823
‎我們的自負將它人格化了
‎認為自己是特例

401
00:22:04,906 --> 00:22:07,617
‎-對
‎-但我們不是特例

402
00:22:08,243 --> 00:22:11,246
‎我們是整體的一部分

403
00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:14,082
‎整個世界是不斷在變化的

404
00:22:15,167 --> 00:22:16,793
‎會改變形式，面目一新

405
00:22:21,548 --> 00:22:22,758
‎妳是特例

406
00:22:25,010 --> 00:22:27,554
‎-因為我是你媽
‎-不是！

407
00:22:28,138 --> 00:22:31,350
‎我知道…但是…

408
00:22:31,641 --> 00:22:34,269
‎我們無法阻止心碎，要怎麼…

409
00:22:34,728 --> 00:22:35,896
‎要怎麼面對？

410
00:22:35,979 --> 00:22:37,147
‎哭啊

411
00:22:39,441 --> 00:22:40,275
‎哭出來

412
00:23:01,046 --> 00:23:02,047
‎這真的很難

413
00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:13,433
‎但這絕對是大家都要面對的事

414
00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:14,351
‎對

415
00:23:16,436 --> 00:23:18,188
‎這真的很奇妙

416
00:23:18,271 --> 00:23:20,816
‎這宇宙…

417
00:23:20,899 --> 00:23:22,901
‎看似很穩定…

418
00:23:23,485 --> 00:23:24,903
‎如果妳…

419
00:23:25,570 --> 00:23:26,738
‎妳知道的…

420
00:23:27,739 --> 00:23:29,908
‎在這種自動狀態下

421
00:23:33,203 --> 00:23:36,039
‎與真相不期而遇

422
00:23:36,123 --> 00:23:37,833
‎對我來說，就是妳將離世…

423
00:23:37,916 --> 00:23:41,420
‎妳行將就木
‎這大概是我這輩子碰過…

424
00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:44,840
‎最當頭棒喝的真相

425
00:23:44,923 --> 00:23:45,882
‎你無法…

426
00:23:46,842 --> 00:23:48,218
‎這難以形容

427
00:23:48,301 --> 00:23:49,136
‎對

428
00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:52,222
‎這並不會讓你感覺…

429
00:23:53,223 --> 00:23:55,517
‎這種感覺不是…

430
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,228
‎-這不是很好的感覺
‎-對

431
00:24:00,355 --> 00:24:02,649
‎但每個人無論如何

432
00:24:02,732 --> 00:24:04,901
‎都會經歷這種感覺

433
00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:05,944
‎是的

434
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:13,618
‎但很多人花費很多時間

435
00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:16,705
‎從事一些荒謬的行徑

436
00:24:16,788 --> 00:24:19,875
‎似乎只是要躲避這個經歷

437
00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:20,917
‎沒有錯

438
00:24:21,001 --> 00:24:25,672
‎人真的會想辦法不去思考
‎自己和他們所愛的人

439
00:24:25,755 --> 00:24:27,757
‎有一天會死亡

440
00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:31,011
‎這會打開你的心，敲開你的心

441
00:24:31,094 --> 00:24:32,471
‎-對
‎-懂嗎？

442
00:24:32,554 --> 00:24:36,850
‎我們的心關閉起來
‎是因為我們把它關起來

443
00:24:36,933 --> 00:24:39,311
‎我們要保護自己不受傷害

444
00:24:39,394 --> 00:24:41,271
‎這會打開我們的心

445
00:25:00,373 --> 00:25:01,958
‎打開心房感覺很糟糕

446
00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:03,376
‎就是這樣

447
00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:06,338
‎拉姆達斯經常提到…這很痛

448
00:25:06,421 --> 00:25:07,589
‎總是會痛嗎？

449
00:25:09,633 --> 00:25:11,676
‎打開心房總是會痛嗎？

450
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,678
‎是不是一直處在…

451
00:25:13,762 --> 00:25:15,472
‎不一定會痛

452
00:25:16,181 --> 00:25:18,558
‎但真的裂開時會很痛

453
00:25:19,267 --> 00:25:20,477
‎懂嗎？是真的

454
00:25:20,977 --> 00:25:25,815
‎連這個傷痛也會改變
‎如果你深究這個痛楚

455
00:25:25,899 --> 00:25:28,401
‎就會知道你所體驗的是愛

456
00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:30,654
‎-對
‎-貨真價實的愛

457
00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:46,461
‎對…

458
00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:48,672
‎因為這是看見新氣象

459
00:25:48,755 --> 00:25:52,050
‎看見你多珍惜生命

460
00:25:52,133 --> 00:25:56,555
‎對，我現在看起來比以往好

461
00:25:56,638 --> 00:25:59,933
‎-是因為我過得更充實
‎-對

462
00:26:00,016 --> 00:26:02,644
‎因為我有意識地活出生命與死亡

463
00:26:03,687 --> 00:26:05,939
‎我同時體驗兩者

464
00:26:22,998 --> 00:26:25,166
‎對面臨這個情況的人

465
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:26,543
‎妳有什麼建議？

466
00:26:31,214 --> 00:26:34,634
‎我會告訴他們，該哭的時候就哭

467
00:26:35,218 --> 00:26:40,765
‎面對死亡，勇敢面對

468
00:26:41,224 --> 00:26:44,894
‎就算你會害怕，也要勇敢面對

469
00:26:45,228 --> 00:26:46,146
‎那不會傷害你

470
00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:52,527
‎看你能學到什麼

471
00:26:52,611 --> 00:26:55,697
‎死亡是了不起的老師，而且免費

472
00:26:55,780 --> 00:26:59,868
‎如果要收費的話
‎恐怕也賣不了幾張票

473
00:27:01,911 --> 00:27:05,248
‎可以的話，我才不參與

474
00:27:08,251 --> 00:27:09,085
‎哇

475
00:27:09,169 --> 00:27:11,463
‎但那能教會你一些事

476
00:27:11,546 --> 00:27:13,089
‎貨真價實

477
00:27:13,173 --> 00:27:14,132
‎是的

478
00:27:14,215 --> 00:27:17,761
‎而且我發現…

479
00:27:19,095 --> 00:27:23,600
‎我離肉體死亡越近…

480
00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:25,852
‎我就更有活力

481
00:27:25,935 --> 00:27:28,813
‎更活在當下，更…

482
00:27:29,314 --> 00:27:30,440
‎覺得真實

483
00:27:30,940 --> 00:27:33,526
‎我瞭解…

484
00:27:34,611 --> 00:27:38,948
‎我不知道肉體死亡的另一邊…

485
00:27:39,574 --> 00:27:40,408
‎是什麼

486
00:27:40,492 --> 00:27:44,204
‎但我內心充滿了活力

487
00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:48,375
‎讓我不得不去思考這件事

488
00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:51,419
‎與我接近肉體死亡有關連

489
00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:55,048
‎-對…
‎-我無法解釋

490
00:27:55,131 --> 00:27:57,008
‎對此我無法解釋

491
00:27:57,384 --> 00:28:02,347
‎但我確實認為
‎如果我們抵抗河水的流動

492
00:28:02,430 --> 00:28:04,599
‎反而會更加痛苦

493
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:06,643
‎-對
‎-那一直在流動

494
00:28:06,726 --> 00:28:09,729
‎如果我們想移到旁邊

495
00:28:09,813 --> 00:28:13,149
‎走上河岸，不隨波逐流

496
00:28:13,233 --> 00:28:16,569
‎-我們就會開始越來越痛苦
‎-對

497
00:28:17,654 --> 00:28:19,781
‎-讓自己隨波同流
‎-對

498
00:28:21,074 --> 00:28:24,119
‎這麼做的神奇之處在於

499
00:28:24,202 --> 00:28:28,123
‎你會發現這個名為愛的東西…

500
00:28:28,665 --> 00:28:31,334
‎是支持、支撐我們的

501
00:28:31,418 --> 00:28:35,505
‎它有種仁慈的特質
‎我們可能從沒注意到

502
00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:39,092
‎我們會問“那是什麼？”

503
00:28:39,175 --> 00:28:41,594
‎是什麼擁有仁慈的特質？

504
00:28:41,678 --> 00:28:44,764
‎我只能想到一個詞，就是現實

505
00:28:45,223 --> 00:28:48,268
‎現實其實有仁慈的特質

506
00:28:48,351 --> 00:28:49,853
‎對

507
00:28:50,729 --> 00:28:52,897
‎就連仁慈也…

508
00:28:52,981 --> 00:28:55,066
‎用這個詞也不足以形容吧？

509
00:28:55,150 --> 00:28:58,361
‎-對
‎-那種感覺太強烈了

510
00:28:58,445 --> 00:29:02,157
‎這種愛的能量實在太強大了

511
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,453
‎為了對抗它
‎我們建造了整個人生，整個自我

512
00:29:06,536 --> 00:29:07,662
‎來阻擋那個感覺

513
00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:10,331
‎-對
‎-那實在是勢不可擋

514
00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:12,041
‎對，殺傷力很強

515
00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:13,418
‎-自我意識死亡
‎-對

516
00:29:14,878 --> 00:29:16,254
‎這不可取

517
00:29:16,337 --> 00:29:19,382
‎這很可取，所以會痛
‎這是自我意識死亡

518
00:29:20,049 --> 00:29:23,094
‎你的心裂開來，自我意識漸漸死亡

519
00:29:23,178 --> 00:29:24,012
‎對

520
00:29:24,554 --> 00:29:28,683
‎但你會發現自我意識死亡是一種變形

521
00:29:29,058 --> 00:29:31,102
‎是煉金術的變形

522
00:29:32,687 --> 00:29:36,608
‎對，誰想要背著這麼重的包袱？

523
00:29:37,233 --> 00:29:38,067
‎你不想

524
00:29:39,527 --> 00:29:40,361
‎我也不想

525
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,085
‎我非常愛妳，這不用說

526
00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:58,671
‎我也愛你

527
00:30:01,758 --> 00:30:05,553
‎鄧肯，那種愛是不會消失的

528
00:30:08,556 --> 00:30:10,308
‎這是另一件你會發現的事

529
00:30:11,684 --> 00:30:17,065
‎我也許會提早離開這個存在的平面

530
00:30:17,732 --> 00:30:19,984
‎但愛永遠不會消失

531
00:30:21,653 --> 00:30:23,780
‎這點我非常確定

532
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:36,584
‎對

533
00:30:37,752 --> 00:30:38,670
‎我相信妳

534
00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:47,637
‎進廣告吧

535
00:30:51,766 --> 00:30:52,809
‎包圍他！

536
00:30:52,892 --> 00:30:53,893
‎爸，拜託！

537
00:30:55,186 --> 00:30:57,105
‎無照的模擬器使用者

538
00:30:57,188 --> 00:31:01,609
‎霍普斯行政官判你違法採收

539
00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:04,529
‎趴在地板上，爬出來！

540
00:31:05,196 --> 00:31:06,656
‎站著別動，聽好！

541
00:31:06,739 --> 00:31:08,366
‎列出他的罪行

542
00:31:08,449 --> 00:31:10,243
‎我要列出你所有的罪行

543
00:31:10,326 --> 00:31:12,996
‎罪行一，偷竊綠油

544
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:14,247
‎罪行二…

545
00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:16,082
‎警察…

546
00:31:16,165 --> 00:31:18,626
‎哎呀！爸，不要！

547
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:19,711
‎丹尼爾，眼睛張開

548
00:31:19,794 --> 00:31:20,670
‎不要，爸，拜託

549
00:31:20,753 --> 00:31:22,964
‎-丹尼爾，眼睛張開
‎-爸，不要！

550
00:31:25,133 --> 00:31:26,384
‎罪行四

551
00:31:26,467 --> 00:31:27,635
‎愚蠢

552
00:31:27,719 --> 00:31:29,137
‎我是好爸爸

553
00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:30,597
‎罪行五…

554
00:31:31,431 --> 00:31:32,599
‎糟糕，聯邦調查局

555
00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:36,978
‎給我燒掉！

556
00:31:37,061 --> 00:31:38,146
‎是，長官

557
00:31:38,229 --> 00:31:40,064
‎警察！

558
00:31:40,982 --> 00:31:42,108
‎警察！

559
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:46,988
‎怎麼點不燃，吉姆？

560
00:31:47,071 --> 00:31:50,158
‎如果風…風轉向了
‎過來，不，又轉回去了

561
00:31:50,241 --> 00:31:51,492
‎-吉姆！
‎-還是沒用

562
00:31:52,076 --> 00:31:53,161
‎警察！

563
00:31:54,537 --> 00:31:55,371
‎我們是警察！

564
00:31:55,455 --> 00:31:56,456
‎我是警察！

565
00:32:00,126 --> 00:32:01,085
‎罪犯！

566
00:32:01,169 --> 00:32:04,797
‎從模擬器退出，否則就轟爆你

567
00:32:04,881 --> 00:32:06,007
‎倒數五…

568
00:32:06,716 --> 00:32:08,760
‎四、三

569
00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:11,137
‎二、一

570
00:32:17,226 --> 00:32:18,770
‎可惡！

571
00:32:26,527 --> 00:32:29,113
‎遭殃了！孩子，放棄身體

572
00:32:29,447 --> 00:32:31,950
‎我們要活在電光裡！

573
00:33:03,147 --> 00:33:04,023
‎上來

574
00:33:36,139 --> 00:33:38,808
‎可以訪問你嗎？是為了我的…

575
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,518
‎我死了嗎？

576
00:33:41,436 --> 00:33:43,813
‎處在當下就好

577
00:33:45,231 --> 00:33:47,442
‎處在當下

578
00:34:20,516 --> 00:34:22,435
‎字幕翻譯：鄭思宇

579
00:34:30,526 --> 00:34:34,405
‎隨時打給我，我知道你在忙播客的事

580
00:34:34,489 --> 00:34:37,492
‎你提到靈魂的事，我覺得很有道理

581
00:34:37,575 --> 00:34:40,912
‎非常有意思，我想跟你聊聊

582
00:34:40,995 --> 00:34:47,460
‎因為今天早上我才意識到
‎自己有這個現象

583
00:34:47,543 --> 00:34:50,880
‎我的靈魂能兜一個圈子，跟自己對話

584
00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:53,007
‎但好像我…

585
00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:57,345
‎我跟靈魂不再疏遠

586
00:34:57,428 --> 00:34:58,596
‎滿有意思的

587
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,766
‎晚點再聊，再見

588
00:35:01,849 --> 00:35:03,059
‎哇